On 19 Dec 2001, at 21:59, Edith Pringle wrote:

 >  From studies carried out in Australia it would seem that counselling of
men following domestic violence yields poor results.

As a coordinator of a small, community based organisation (The Anti-
violence Project in Northern NSW Australia) aimed to end domestic
violence by working with men I find these assertions disturbing.

Firstly, I think that there is a long way to go in discovering the most
effective approaches and methods in working with men to end violence.
Secondly, I believe that our program and many others are making a
significant difference, not only for particular families but in helping
change community attitudes and beliefs that encourage, condone and
support the use of violence toward women.

In our case we have about 100 men enter our programs per year, about
200 make enquiries. These are 'voluntary' programs and only about 30 of
these men stay in the course for a length of time that we consider
sufficient.

Our last survey of partners nevertheless included all men that had
attended our MEND group more than twice.

Thirty two of the partners of these men were contactable and willing to
give us feedback. These women had experienced a variety of abuse and
violence. Half of these women stated that all forms of violence; physical,
verbal, emotional, sexual had ceased. About a quarter said that it had
reduced significantly and a quarter said that there had been no change.

Because partner contact and ongoing support is an integral part our
program I have heard countless stories of total turn-arounds in men's
behaviour and attitudes. Of course there are also many stories of men
who do everything they can to avoid taking responsibility.

I agree with Edith, it is not a good idea to use programs as a diversion or
to reduce sentences. Having said that I don't believe that our abusive
prison system is ideal either.

Our program began six years ago because a significant number of men
were calling a local men's help line wanting support in dealing with their
anger and stopping their violence. I believe that this desire to change on
the part of men is mainly due to the enormous and laudable efforts of
women (and some men) who named domestic violence and continue to
challenge men's abusive behaviour. Refuges, decisive police and judicial
responses and all that the DV sector have been campaigning for are
essential.

The women we work with commonly state, " I want our family to stay
together, I just want the violence to stop". Our program offers a chance
for her wish to be realised. In fact without this option she may stay with
him, hoping for change without ever seeing her partner put to a test.
Women who's partners continue to be violent despite having attended
our program are more determined in their leaving of him. They know that
they gave him every chance to change. Please do not read the above as a
tolerance of DV, our women's support is not about 'coping' with
violence. We have just observed that despite our efforts to support her
to leave, she will stay for a variety of reasons. One of these is her desire
to be 'fair' and give him every chance to change.

An unexpected outcome of our program is finding that men will argue for
change with their mates, brothers and work colleagues. Almost every
man in our group has stories of challenging others. When men initially
enter the program they are concerned about others knowing of their
actions. Within two sessions this attitude seems to have turned on it's
head. They report talking to all sorts of people about the changes they
are making and are quite happy for others to be informed of their
participation.

There is always a tension in respectfully engaging with a man that has
been abusive. It is not as simple as separating the problem behaviour
from the person. There is much to discover about working with men to
end violence. I am particularly concerned about the men who do not stay
in the program long or who do not turn up for their Intake appointment. I
believe that there must be ways we can improve so that these men can
take up the invitation to end their abuse.

Every program needs evaluating and ongoing support to increase the
skills of the counsellors who engage with men. The structure of the
programs also need continual assessment and improvement.

Just stopping particular programs because they are not showing good
results robs society and those that work with men of a chance to learn
and improve.

All the best with your work,  Stuart

Stuart Anderson
Anti-violence Project
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stuart Anderson
Anti-violence Project
02 6622 6116



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