Hi Pln and all. I see what you mean by the traditions of the Taiwanese culture. In general, this is an oriental culture, isn't it? I'm a Japanese descendant and Japanese culture works like that too. Regarding the daughters taking care of parents when they get old is true as well.
Pln, this is a sad story and now I can relate that one with the last you told when that woman asked you to call her mom. Your reaction surely must have let your mom with a broken heart, even though she might have suspected that it was because of her fault. I don't know whether you believe or not in that old phrase, "everything happens for a reason". Don't you think all that happened in order to make you a good mother? It's great to read and interact in the group, you all have always new vocabulary. Yeah, Pln, this is the end of your I.O.U.!! Have an amazing day for you all!! Oshiro On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:34 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Oshiro and all, > > The reason why traditional Taiwanese prefer sons is because they > believe sons can pass on their family names and inherit their fortune > or business whileas daughters are considered outcast of their family > once married.:( > > The irony of this phenomenon is that they depend so much more on their > daughters when they are old and sick. > Daughters mostly take responsibilites of looking after their old and > ill parents even though they receive unequal rights to inheritance... > But since women are usually natural care-takers,they learn to do it > without complaint anyway...:) > > The rain check I promised to you: > I was brought up by my aunt who is the wife of my father's eldest > brother...till the age of 3 before my father was forced to start his > own business far away from his previous employer,his eldest > brother...as he was afraid of my father might turn to be a competitor.: > ( > Before they became useless to my uncle and aunt,my father worked as a > salesman at the oldest and largest importer/exporter then for his > brother whileas my mother had to work as a housemaid taking care of > all chores around his home office. > > My mother was so exploited by my aunt that I barely could spend time > with her...Well,according to my mom of course. > So after we moved to the far south,I didn't want to call my mother > 'Mommy',and refused to be given bath by her...at the age of 3...:( > > My mother remembered this incident so well that she repeated to me and > others so many times... > I broke her heart badly,didn't I? > But what can you expect a 3 year-old who had to be taken care of by > another woman other than her own mom to react?!:( > > That was one reason why when I decided to have my own children,I > promised myself that I would single-handedly raise them no matter what > happened... > One should never be absent from his/her children's growth,and leave > them to nannies,grandparents or uncaring and crowded day-care > centres...as most Taiwanese working parents do...:( > > OK.the end of I.O.U.LOL > > Nice day to you and all of us! > Pln > > On Aug 6, 4:12 pm, Rafael Oshiro <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Pln and everyone!!! > > > > I strongly believe you took the right decision, Pln, it's not fair > neither > > to your mother nor to you, even though your mother was wanting to put you > > for adoption in that time. Taiwan is a country where people give much > > importance to have a male child, isn't it? It sounds as a patriarchal > > country, where the boy "rules" the family, correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > Rain check accepted, Pln!! I'm sure briana, Ed, Claire, Elham, Josney, > Anu, > > I are going to do all the possible to maintain the groups well, as always > :) > > Just relax and have a rest. I'm looking forward for you next story LOL > > > > Have a nice day everybody!! > > Oshiro > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:43 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Oshiro and all so many more, > > > > > Hey,Oshiro,that is precisely how I feel,too!LOL > > > Anxious,amused,surprised,sad,thrilled,disappointed,(because someone > > > didn't show up;))and so many other emotions,as wellLOL > > > > > To the amazement of so many adults and peers around me,I refused to > > > call her Mom... > > > Even though I heard evryone loudly urged me to change my mind as to > > > please her and make her wish come true... > > > I still didn't want to utter a word as simple as that:Mom! > > > > > To make you understand my situation or my stubbornness better, > > > I don't know if you remember I mentioned it when I first joined here > > > that my parents wanted to put me up for adoption(ealier than that day > > > or later in the years I can't remember now.:() > > > I was the 3rd daughter they had and what they really wanted was > > > another son... > > > > > There's another story,but I am running out of time to tell you now!:( > > > Let me give you a rain check,OK? > > > But I need you to promise me that you,Briana and Ed will take care of > > > all other members while I'm gone,PLEASE!!!:) > > > > > Take care,everyone! > > > See you soon next week!!! > > > Pln > > > > > On Aug 5, 4:53 pm, Rafael Oshiro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Pln, Claire, Elham, Briana, Charles, Dipodae, Josney, Simone, Su > and > > > > all!!! How many people in here!!! LOL > > > > > > Pln, thanks for the praising words, it's a pleasure for me to know > that I > > > > have some participation in the success of the group, as all of the > > > members > > > > as well. Pablo sent a post about the making English a habit, now > writing > > > and > > > > reading here is a habit for me, I'm always anxious to check out the > > > latest > > > > posts. > > > > > > What a story you told us, Pln!!! That mother was kind of "unfair" to > ask > > > you > > > > to say that, wasn't she? I'm curious to know what was you answer to > her. > > > If > > > > I were in your shoes, I would be lost and I don't know what would be > my > > > > reaction. > > > > I would guess you realized her wish but then you maybe got upset by > doing > > > > that. > > > > It really got me intrigued, tell us what you said LOL > > > > > > Have a nice day!! > > > > Oshiro > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:10 AM, pln471 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Briana Claire Charles and so many more who took part in this old > > > > > interesting thread,;) > > > > > > > Let me tell you another reason why we learn to lie at very early > > > > > age... > > > > > > > When out of our own selfishness or jealousy,we ask our > > > > > children,grandchildren or pupils,'Which do you love more,mommy or > > > > > daddy,granny or grandpa?' > > > > > > > What do we expect them to say? > > > > > When I was a little girl,I was very popular among uncles and > aunties > > > > > (parents of my playmates)in our neighbourhood,they all fought to > give > > > > > me a lift to school or buy me some candy or snacks as long as I > asked > > > > > them to. > > > > > > > One mother of 2 elder boys went even further,once on my > birthday,she > > > > > told me in front of all other kids and adults that if I called her > > > > > mom,she would have bought me a big birthday cake. > > > > > That was a big torture and temptation for me at that small age...We > > > > > were quite poor and none of my siblings or playmates was so > favoured > > > > > by her,a well-off woman without a daughter... > > > > > > > Did I materialize her wish? > > > > > Take a guess!LOL > > > > > > > Pleasant day,everyone! > > > > > Pln > > > > > P.S.Thanks,Oshiro for your kind words appreciating all our efforts > to > > > > > keep the 2 groups active and animated!;) > > > > > What you don't know is that you have played a huge part > > > > > contributing to this success,if it is one!LOL > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:21 pm, briana moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Claire and others, > > > > > > > > I agree with Dipodidae that even if we lie to others, it is > really > > > > > important > > > > > > that we are true and honest with ourselves. Its important for us > to > > > know, > > > > > > what we expect from ourselves, our life and with others. Life is > > > short. > > > > > One > > > > > > can't waste it living someone else's life. > > > > > > > > Its important to trust our conscience. Sometimes it becomes > > > inevitable to > > > > > > lie. > > > > > > > > A lie for the benefit of others is better than truth that harms > or > > > hurts. > > > > > > > > "This above all - To thy own self be true." > > > > > > - William Shakespeare > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > briana- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "English Learner's Cafe" group. 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