On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:59 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:06:13 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:37:45 +1030 Simon Lees <si...@simotek.net>
>> said:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > Today i noticed the Automake requirements have changed and i was
>> > wondering if this requrement change was due to functionality or
>> > just because it is what people are testing? The reason i ask is 1
>> > because at work i am running Ubuntu 10.10 and i am not likely to
>> > upgrade anytime soon, untill now i have had no problems building
>> > and running the latest versions of e17 however it only has automake
>> > 1.10.2 I am guessing there are a few other Ubnutu 10.04 (Still in
>> > support) and debian people are stuck with a older version. Also our
>> > SLES build on OBS only has 1.10.1. I could sit down and figure out
>> > why automake doesn't work and try and come up with patches but i am
>> > guessing someone on this list can tell me why and there are
>> > probably more useful things i could be getting running.
>>
>> probably is part of automake complaining things are deprecated and us
>> adapting... as such if u are a developer - u can upgrade yur
>> automake. if you are just building efl (packages) you never need
>> automake - ever. or autoconf. you use the tarballs released :)
>
> Not everyone can "just upgrade automake".

of course, you can, you just install them in a specific directory,
like $HOME/opt_autotools, and update PATH when you need them, and
that's all.

Vincent

>  There's entirely valid
> reasons for people to stick with old yet still supported operating
> systems, and entirely valid reasons to not piecemeal upgrade parts of
> it.  Especially if you are a developer, you might have even more
> reasons to stick with old but still supported operating systems that
> are as close to stock as you can keep them.  Notice Simon's "i am not
> likely to upgrade anytime soon", he has an entirely valid reason for
> that I'm sure.  So while I'm sure Simon has the skill to upgrade his
> automake, he might not have any desire to do so.  Not to mention the
> other people using the other Linux distros he mentions.
>
> Simon even mentioned that it's his work system that has this problem.
> It's very likely that some company provided systems are locked down to
> specific versions of development tools for the companies own reasons.
> Say for instance to provide a common development environment for all the
> developers.  He might not be allowed to upgrade automake.
>
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> coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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