Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:00:28 +1000 From: David Seikel 
<onef...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Automake 1.11 To: 
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charset="us-ascii" On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:53:06 +0900 Carsten Haitzler 
(The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:59:18 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
>> said:
>>
>>> Simon even mentioned that it's his work system that has this
>>> problem. It's very likely that some company provided systems are
>>> locked down to specific versions of development tools for the
>>> companies own reasons. Say for instance to provide a common
>>> development environment for all the developers.  He might not be
>>> allowed to upgrade automake.
>> you dont need to be root to upgrade it. don't be silly. if you're a
>> developer you can happily upgrade automake all you like - as long as
>> whatever you want to upgrade doesn't need root privs (setuid root for
>> example), you can do it.
> I did not mention root.  Could be "locked down" based on the boss
> saying "Thou shalt use version X, and only version X, on pain of being
> fired.".
>
We'll im glad to see i have generated some lively discussion, Lucas told 
me what i needed to know which is why automake is required so tomorrow i 
will install it in the home directory of my local user. The reason i 
don't upgrade is our development environment is interesting and old to 
say the least, for version control we use some web forms based on a 
bunch of scripts based on teamware and sccs running on a solaris server. 
Upgrading past Ubuntu 10.10 seems to break this setup, in short i don't 
know how most of our systems work, i don't want to know how they work 
and i figure the less i touch and change things the less likely they are 
to break. I do also know i have network drives mapped to some common 
install paths for build tools and that is more likely to break things.
So if i didn't need to i was happy not to upgrade. I guess we will also 
make a automake package for SLES at the right version.
In all honesty if i was in Rasters position i would have just said you 
need to upgrade so i know where your coming from.

Cheers,
Simon

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