On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:11:50 +1030 Simon <si...@simotek.net> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:00:28 +1000 From: David Seikel 
> <onef...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Automake 1.11 To: 
> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 
> <20121115200028.339b23c0.onef...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; 
> charset="us-ascii" On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:53:06 +0900 Carsten
> Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:59:18 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
> >> said:
> >>
> >>> Simon even mentioned that it's his work system that has this
> >>> problem. It's very likely that some company provided systems are
> >>> locked down to specific versions of development tools for the
> >>> companies own reasons. Say for instance to provide a common
> >>> development environment for all the developers.  He might not be
> >>> allowed to upgrade automake.
> >> you dont need to be root to upgrade it. don't be silly. if you're a
> >> developer you can happily upgrade automake all you like - as long
> >> as whatever you want to upgrade doesn't need root privs (setuid
> >> root for example), you can do it.
> > I did not mention root.  Could be "locked down" based on the boss
> > saying "Thou shalt use version X, and only version X, on pain of
> > being fired.".
> >
> We'll im glad to see i have generated some lively discussion, Lucas
> told me what i needed to know which is why automake is required so
> tomorrow i will install it in the home directory of my local user.
> The reason i don't upgrade is our development environment is
> interesting and old to say the least, for version control we use some
> web forms based on a bunch of scripts based on teamware and sccs
> running on a solaris server. Upgrading past Ubuntu 10.10 seems to
> break this setup, in short i don't know how most of our systems work,
> i don't want to know how they work and i figure the less i touch and
> change things the less likely they are to break. I do also know i
> have network drives mapped to some common install paths for build
> tools and that is more likely to break things. So if i didn't need to
> i was happy not to upgrade.

Sounds like a perfectly valid reason to me.  We don't all have the
luxury of using the very latest of everything, even if we want to.
That's a point I try to get across every now and then.

As for me, I've only just this month updated to Ubuntu 12.04, even
though 12.10 is the latest.  I want to stick with LTS versions.  No
doubt in a couple of years people will tell me I'm silly to stick with
that ancient 12.04, and that I should just upgrade dammit.  lol

I will also test compile some of my own projects on a 10.04 system
until after Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported by Canonical.  Also,
releases of that stuff I'll compile on a stock 10.04 system.  No I
don't do this just coz my head is full of nonsense.  Pfffft

-- 
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.

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