On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:00:28 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:53:06 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:59:18 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > > said: > > > > > Simon even mentioned that it's his work system that has this > > > problem. It's very likely that some company provided systems are > > > locked down to specific versions of development tools for the > > > companies own reasons. Say for instance to provide a common > > > development environment for all the developers. He might not be > > > allowed to upgrade automake. > > > > you dont need to be root to upgrade it. don't be silly. if you're a > > developer you can happily upgrade automake all you like - as long as > > whatever you want to upgrade doesn't need root privs (setuid root for > > example), you can do it. > > I did not mention root. Could be "locked down" based on the boss > saying "Thou shalt use version X, and only version X, on pain of being > fired.". at which point they are not and cannot do development on e and efl, so it's moot. if e and efl require it, and the persons JOB is to work on e or efl, then the boss must relent. if it is not their job, then any ability to work on e or efl is a luxury. if you have a boss that demands that as a developer you cannot install a specific version of automake in your own homedir even though it is a requirement and dealing with e and efl is part of your job, it's an awesome signal to hand in a resignation right there and then as you work at a place run by complete imbeciles. if its unrelated to work and you are permitted to hack on such things anyway in spare time, on your company pc, then any boss that mandates what you can and cant use when working on such "side projects" is an imbecile, so time to quit too (if the alternative is being fired). if it's not allowed to work on such things in spare time - the conversation is moot and u can't work on or use efl no matter what version of automake you have. your point makes no sense. i've been in the industry for a long time - professionally working in offices. the most locked down was n investment bank, where i didn't have root... BUT i had full free reign within my homedir - no rules would prevent me from providing my own compiled stuff - none anywhere. it's my homedir, my machine, it's my problem. production systems are locked down and firewalled away nicely anyway. everywhere else - EVERYWHERE else. including samsung, i have root. the box is mine to do with as i please. that's how it should be with developers. not to mention.. if your boss or company happens to even know WHAT automake is and be able to specify the exact version to use.. then they are clueful enough to know when and when not such a rule is to be applied. reality is i have never seen or heard of such a place that mandates specific versions of LINUX DEVELOPER TOOLS ... as most have no clue even how linux development works, letalone to be able to specify such things. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
