On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:10:49 -0200 Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> Hi David, > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:59 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:06:13 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:37:45 +1030 Simon Lees <si...@simotek.net> > >> said: > >> > >> > Hi all, > >> > Today i noticed the Automake requirements have changed and i was > >> > wondering if this requrement change was due to functionality or > >> > just because it is what people are testing? The reason i ask is 1 > >> > because at work i am running Ubuntu 10.10 and i am not likely to > >> > upgrade anytime soon, untill now i have had no problems building > >> > and running the latest versions of e17 however it only has > >> > automake 1.10.2 I am guessing there are a few other Ubnutu 10.04 > >> > (Still in support) and debian people are stuck with a older > >> > version. Also our SLES build on OBS only has 1.10.1. I could sit > >> > down and figure out why automake doesn't work and try and come > >> > up with patches but i am guessing someone on this list can tell > >> > me why and there are probably more useful things i could be > >> > getting running. > >> > >> probably is part of automake complaining things are deprecated and > >> us adapting... as such if u are a developer - u can upgrade yur > >> automake. if you are just building efl (packages) you never need > >> automake - ever. or autoconf. you use the tarballs released :) > > > > Not everyone can "just upgrade automake". There's entirely valid > > yes they can. you can install in /home/ or use released tarballs > > > reasons for people to stick with old yet still supported operating > > systems, and entirely valid reasons to not piecemeal upgrade parts > > of it. Especially if you are a developer, you might have even more > > reasons to stick with old but still supported operating systems that > > If you are a developer you have plenty of reasons to *not* use a > enterprise oriented distro. Plenty of reasons to People do things in their job coz they are told to by the boss, not coz they are a good idea, or even sane. People have been fired for less. Seems like a good reason to me to stick with what you are told to use. We don't know Simons reasons for not upgrading, or even if they are his own reasons, or handed down from on high. You just assume that his reasons are not valid and he should "just upgrade dammit". I make no such assumptions. > > are as close to stock as you can keep them. Notice Simon's "i am > > not > > close to stock? stock what? stock old? Stock version of the OS. And you claim I'm coming up with nonsense. lol > > likely to upgrade anytime soon", he has an entirely valid reason for > > You didn't provide any valid reason. I can't speak for Simon, but I have provided plenty of valid reasons for supporting old still supported systems in the past. > Come on David, stop the non-sense. The nonsense is thinking that everyone can just upgrade when things get non compatible with operating systems that are still supported by their creators. It's nonsense to think that everyone should "just upgrade dammit". Their are definitely perfectly reasonable reasons why people stick with old systems, saying "just upgrade dammit" ignores those reasons. Simon already said he wont or cant upgrade, so why bother suggesting that's his only viable option? That sounds like nonsense to me. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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