On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:17:52 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> said:

> Yes I agree :)
> 
> I wasn't doing a bootstrap evangelisation but backing the idea of keeping
> this web site simple is important, as it's just a showcase, not a money
> factory :)
> 
> Do you need some help by the way ?

i'm all for there being a TEAM to work on the www... thus putting it in svn as
we have in the past and until now (and git in the future).

> Do we add social things ?
> 
> A tweet feed ?

well there are already links to various facebook/twitter stuff from e.org. i
frankly dont have time to participate tho. :)

> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nathan Baxter <
> nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info>
> > said:
> > >
> > > agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it
> > degrades
> > > tho and who those people are.. only time will tell.
> > >
> > >> Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site.
> > >>
> > >> Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even
> > >> curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money
> > >> transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser.
> > >>
> > >> To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will
> > handle
> > >> many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web
> > site.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> >
> > Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own
> > css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just
> > requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and
> > if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully anyway.
> >
> > I'm officially on this now! It will work.
> >
> > >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 +0000 Nathan Baxter
> > >>> <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said:
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>> How far back does browser support need to go?
> > >>>>>>> for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work..
> > >>> and
> > >>>>>>> netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we
> > >>>>>>> can sensibly
> > >>>>>>> do. i think i'd say "make ie7 work" ie... when ie finally stopped
> > >>>>>>> being AS crap
> > >>>>>>> and begin to think of the modern world a little.... but it depends
> > >>>>>>> on how hard
> > >>>>>>> it is.
> > >>>>>> There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but
> > >>> not
> > >>>>>> impossible.
> > >>>>>> My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the
> > >>> means
> > >>>>>> to test this.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should
> > >>> have
> > >>>>>> most of the bases covered.
> > >>>>> Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother
> > >>>>> with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of
> > >>>>> the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say
> > >>>>> that less than 0.000000000000006% of the people that enter the E
> > >>>>> website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.ie6countdown.com/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Tom.
> > >>>> Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the
> > newer
> > >>>> & superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10,
> > >>>> but this isn't my site, it's the teams.
> > >>> the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use.
> > they
> > >>> live
> > >>> on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not
> > >>> allowed
> > >>> to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the
> > >>> question is just "how nice". how much work is it? how much does it
> > limit
> > >>> us?
> > >>> i'd agree with "css3/html5 stuff only" except for the fact that
> > reality is
> > >>> people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are
> > >>> still
> > >>> around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a
> > good
> > >>> baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a
> > lot
> > >>> and
> > >>> often - so thats less of a problem. opera too etc.
> > >>>
> > >>>
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