On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:17:52 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> said:
> Yes I agree :) > > I wasn't doing a bootstrap evangelisation but backing the idea of keeping > this web site simple is important, as it's just a showcase, not a money > factory :) > > Do you need some help by the way ? i'm all for there being a TEAM to work on the www... thus putting it in svn as we have in the past and until now (and git in the future). > Do we add social things ? > > A tweet feed ? well there are already links to various facebook/twitter stuff from e.org. i frankly dont have time to participate tho. :) > Regards, > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nathan Baxter < > nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> wrote: > > > On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> > > said: > > > > > > agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it > > degrades > > > tho and who those people are.. only time will tell. > > > > > >> Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site. > > >> > > >> Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even > > >> curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money > > >> transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser. > > >> > > >> To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will > > handle > > >> many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web > > site. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > > > Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own > > css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just > > requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and > > if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully anyway. > > > > I'm officially on this now! It will work. > > > > >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > > >wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 +0000 Nathan Baxter > > >>> <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said: > > >>> > > >>>>>>>> How far back does browser support need to go? > > >>>>>>> for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work.. > > >>> and > > >>>>>>> netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we > > >>>>>>> can sensibly > > >>>>>>> do. i think i'd say "make ie7 work" ie... when ie finally stopped > > >>>>>>> being AS crap > > >>>>>>> and begin to think of the modern world a little.... but it depends > > >>>>>>> on how hard > > >>>>>>> it is. > > >>>>>> There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but > > >>> not > > >>>>>> impossible. > > >>>>>> My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the > > >>> means > > >>>>>> to test this. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should > > >>> have > > >>>>>> most of the bases covered. > > >>>>> Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother > > >>>>> with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of > > >>>>> the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say > > >>>>> that less than 0.000000000000006% of the people that enter the E > > >>>>> website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://www.ie6countdown.com/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Tom. > > >>>> Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the > > newer > > >>>> & superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10, > > >>>> but this isn't my site, it's the teams. > > >>> the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use. > > they > > >>> live > > >>> on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not > > >>> allowed > > >>> to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the > > >>> question is just "how nice". how much work is it? how much does it > > limit > > >>> us? > > >>> i'd agree with "css3/html5 stuff only" except for the fact that > > reality is > > >>> people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are > > >>> still > > >>> around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a > > good > > >>> baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a > > lot > > >>> and > > >>> often - so thats less of a problem. opera too etc. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > -------------- > > >>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer > > >>> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 > > >>> and get the hardware for free! 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