On 14/02/13 17:17, Steven Le Roux wrote:
> Yes I agree :)
>
> I wasn't doing a bootstrap evangelisation but backing the idea of keeping
> this web site simple is important, as it's just a showcase, not a money
> factory :)
No worries :)
>
> Do you need some help by the way ?
I probably will do, my primary objective for now is to construct an XCF
of what I want to achieve. That way I have a decent reference point and
can get buy in from the team before I start the real work.
> Do we add social things ?
It would prbably be best to keep the social elements that are already
there. So yes :)
> A tweet feed ?
Is there a twitter page? It would be useful if useful information is put
there, If there is a twitter page, who maintains it? Implementation
shouldn't be too difficult, my only concern is maintenance of the actual
twitter page and not having tweets re-apear that are older than 6 months.
I want to keep the current method of additional sheets that are being
used only transform them into xml. This would make maintenance a lot
easier, it'll also be easier to tag i.e.
<eItem>
<date>20120214</date>
<heading>Heading</heading>
<newsItem>News about heading</newsItem>
</eItem>
etcetera. This removes the need for an external database management
system and anyone with write access could add a news item. We could also
store all the on-line documentation this way too.
My general thoughts are: if you can't edit the site content in vim it's
an image, if it isn't an image it should't be there :)
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nathan Baxter <
> nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> wrote:
>
>> On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info>
>> said:
>>> agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it
>> degrades
>>> tho and who those people are.. only time will tell.
>>>
>>>> Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site.
>>>>
>>>> Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even
>>>> curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money
>>>> transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser.
>>>>
>>>> To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will
>> handle
>>>> many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web
>> site.
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>> Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own
>> css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just
>> requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and
>> if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully anyway.
>>
>> I'm officially on this now! It will work.
>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 +0000 Nathan Baxter
>>>>> <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How far back does browser support need to go?
>>>>>>>>> for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work..
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we
>>>>>>>>> can sensibly
>>>>>>>>> do. i think i'd say "make ie7 work" ie... when ie finally stopped
>>>>>>>>> being AS crap
>>>>>>>>> and begin to think of the modern world a little.... but it depends
>>>>>>>>> on how hard
>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>> There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>> My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the
>>>>> means
>>>>>>>> to test this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> most of the bases covered.
>>>>>>> Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother
>>>>>>> with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of
>>>>>>> the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say
>>>>>>> that less than 0.000000000000006% of the people that enter the E
>>>>>>> website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ie6countdown.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>> Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the
>> newer
>>>>>> & superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10,
>>>>>> but this isn't my site, it's the teams.
>>>>> the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use.
>> they
>>>>> live
>>>>> on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not
>>>>> allowed
>>>>> to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the
>>>>> question is just "how nice". how much work is it? how much does it
>> limit
>>>>> us?
>>>>> i'd agree with "css3/html5 stuff only" except for the fact that
>> reality is
>>>>> people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are
>>>>> still
>>>>> around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a
>> good
>>>>> baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a
>> lot
>>>>> and
>>>>> often - so thats less of a problem. opera too etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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