On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> said:
>
> agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it degrades
> tho and who those people are.. only time will tell.
>
>> Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site.
>>
>> Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even
>> curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money
>> transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser.
>>
>> To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will handle
>> many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web site.
>>
>> Regards,
>>

Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own 
css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just 
requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and 
if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully anyway.

I'm officially on this now! It will work.

>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler 
>> <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 +0000 Nathan Baxter
>>> <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said:
>>>
>>>>>>>> How far back does browser support need to go?
>>>>>>> for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work..
>>> and
>>>>>>> netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we
>>>>>>> can sensibly
>>>>>>> do. i think i'd say "make ie7 work" ie... when ie finally stopped
>>>>>>> being AS crap
>>>>>>> and begin to think of the modern world a little.... but it depends
>>>>>>> on how hard
>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>> There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but
>>> not
>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>> My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the
>>> means
>>>>>> to test this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should
>>> have
>>>>>> most of the bases covered.
>>>>> Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother
>>>>> with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of
>>>>> the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say
>>>>> that less than 0.000000000000006% of the people that enter the E
>>>>> website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ie6countdown.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tom.
>>>> Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the newer
>>>> & superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10,
>>>> but this isn't my site, it's the teams.
>>> the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use. they
>>> live
>>> on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not
>>> allowed
>>> to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the
>>> question is just "how nice". how much work is it? how much does it limit
>>> us?
>>> i'd agree with "css3/html5 stuff only" except for the fact that reality is
>>> people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are
>>> still
>>> around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a good
>>> baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a lot
>>> and
>>> often - so thats less of a problem. opera too etc.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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