On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:59:01 +0000 Nathan Baxter <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said:
> On 14/02/13 17:17, Steven Le Roux wrote: > > Yes I agree :) > > > > I wasn't doing a bootstrap evangelisation but backing the idea of keeping > > this web site simple is important, as it's just a showcase, not a money > > factory :) > > No worries :) > > > > > Do you need some help by the way ? > > I probably will do, my primary objective for now is to construct an XCF > of what I want to achieve. That way I have a decent reference point and > can get buy in from the team before I start the real work. > > > Do we add social things ? > > It would prbably be best to keep the social elements that are already > there. So yes :) > > > A tweet feed ? there is a twitter page/acount for e. there is even a script that allows svn commits to tweet... just put tweet: in the svn log... :) it SHOULD work... > Is there a twitter page? It would be useful if useful information is put > there, If there is a twitter page, who maintains it? Implementation > shouldn't be too difficult, my only concern is maintenance of the actual > twitter page and not having tweets re-apear that are older than 6 months. > > I want to keep the current method of additional sheets that are being > used only transform them into xml. This would make maintenance a lot > easier, it'll also be easier to tag i.e. > > <eItem> > <date>20120214</date> > <heading>Heading</heading> > <newsItem>News about heading</newsItem> > </eItem> > > etcetera. This removes the need for an external database management > system and anyone with write access could add a news item. We could also > store all the on-line documentation this way too. > > My general thoughts are: if you can't edit the site content in vim it's > an image, if it isn't an image it should't be there :) > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nathan Baxter < > > nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> wrote: > > > >> On 14/02/13 11:49, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:19:51 +0100 Steven Le Roux <ste...@le-roux.info> > >> said: > >>> agreed - we can drop some people from support. it depends how well it > >> degrades > >>> tho and who those people are.. only time will tell. > >>> > >>>> Don't forget that you're not selling services through the web site. > >>>> > >>>> Ok you need a simple download page that will work for all browser, even > >>>> curl script, but since you're not selling services, you don't miss money > >>>> transactions when a button doesn't work because of a faulty browser. > >>>> > >>>> To my pov it can even rely on a responsive bootstrap css that will > >> handle > >>>> many browser, and less pain for non-paid dev that will write the web > >> site. > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >> Bootstrap has an awful habbit of turning into tag soup, rolling your own > >> css is just a better idea. Bootstrap as a concept is phenominal, it just > >> requires (for me at least) a lot more unecessary work to implement and > >> if your html is constructed correctly it should degrade gracefully anyway. > >> > >> I'm officially on this now! It will work. > >> > >>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > >>> wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:57:18 +0000 Nathan Baxter > >>>>> <nathanbax...@pixelmasochist.net> said: > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> How far back does browser support need to go? > >>>>>>>>> for browsers? ummm tbh thats a good q. while i'd LIKE ie6 to work.. > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> netscape 1.1... and mosaic... reality is there is only so much we > >>>>>>>>> can sensibly > >>>>>>>>> do. i think i'd say "make ie7 work" ie... when ie finally stopped > >>>>>>>>> being AS crap > >>>>>>>>> and begin to think of the modern world a little.... but it depends > >>>>>>>>> on how hard > >>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>> There are more than a few tricks for this, it is time consuming, but > >>>>> not > >>>>>>>> impossible. > >>>>>>>> My job generally requires IE6 compatibility any way so I have the > >>>>> means > >>>>>>>> to test this. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If a site works In IE 6,7,8, FF, Chrome, Opera and elinks we should > >>>>> have > >>>>>>>> most of the bases covered. > >>>>>>> Really? Do people still care about IE6? Seriously dude, don't bother > >>>>>>> with this one. It's officially dead for a long time. Less than 6% of > >>>>>>> the world uses ie6, most of it from China. I think it's safe to say > >>>>>>> that less than 0.000000000000006% of the people that enter the E > >>>>>>> website use IE6. We can easily verify that with some server logs. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.ie6countdown.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Tom. > >>>>>> Personnaly I'd ignore everything that doesn't support some of the > >> newer > >>>>>> & superior elements of CSS3. I'd gladly ignore everything before IE10, > >>>>>> but this isn't my site, it's the teams. > >>>>> the problem is a lot of peopl dont control what browser they can use. > >> they > >>>>> live > >>>>> on corporate it networks where they are told to use browser X and not > >>>>> allowed > >>>>> to install/use another. so to a large extent we have to play nice. the > >>>>> question is just "how nice". how much work is it? how much does it > >> limit > >>>>> us? > >>>>> i'd agree with "css3/html5 stuff only" except for the fact that > >> reality is > >>>>> people use things like ie7 and ie8 still in real life. ie7 and ie8 are > >>>>> still > >>>>> around a lot - but they are a vast improvement over 6 - so it may be a > >> good > >>>>> baseline. of course anyone on firefox or chrome likely is upgrading a > >> lot > >>>>> and > >>>>> often - so thats less of a problem. opera too etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > >> -------------- > >>>>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer > >>>>> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 > >>>>> and get the hardware for free! 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