On 8/20/03 7:05 AM, "Bruce Klutchko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry to keep replying to my own messages, but things continue to get more > interesting. What I have learned is that if I create a new mailing list > rule, and apply all rules to a message sitting in my inbox (but NOT > previously moved), the rule works. If I move the message back to the inbox, > and reapply all rules, that same message will not be moved per the mailing > list manager. I believe that may by design, and is possibly part of Entourage' Xs much better IMAP support than Entourage 2001. Without the MLM's "move once only" behavior, IMAP messages would have the rules constantly running, over and over again, eventually tying the server up in knots. (Although it looks to us as if a message is "in" server folder, the server may see things differently.) In any case, the MLM had a number of changes to improve IMAP support in v. X. Only someone from MacBU can tell you if what you are seeing is intended and a necessary consequence, or if it's a bug. AFAIK, the MLM rules are supposed to run just once, so it was probably a bug in 2001 if they ran more often, and is now fixed. > > If I drag the message to the desktop and back, the new copy will respond to > the mailing list manager while the original does not. Of course. Dragging an .eml file into Entourage is just the same as receiving a message over the internet as far as Entourage is concerned - it's how all imports, via File/Import/From a program, via dragging in .eml and .mbox files, and via AppleScript, work. The new message is assigned a brand new ID. So whatever in the database is assigned the task of keeping track of new vs. old messages, and thus whether MLM rules have yet been applied, sees it rightly as a new message. The original message that you saved out to disk is not a new message. So MLM rules will run once on the new import but not on the original. There's nothing unexpected about that. > > It is not affected by checking the box to not apply rules to mailing list > messages. That's interesting. Mailing List messages are in reality TO the mailing list, not FROM it. Perhaps the restriction (not to apply regular rules) is only checked when the message arrives via the internet. Is it true if you drag the .eml into the local Inbox? Note by the way that the restriction not to apply other rules does not operate with Outgoing Rules on messages that you have checked should "be stored in the same folder". It never has, not in 2001 either. I wish they would fix that one. > > This behavior in Entourage VX is different than it was in E'rage 2001, and > makes it hard to test a large list of mailing list and regular rules. Why not just use them in real life? Are you sure you're not contriving unnatural conditions here? Who does al this dragging of messages to desktop and back and then applies all rules, in real life? > There > must be some sort of internal mechanism for not applying a mailing list rule > twice to the same message that did not exist in E'rage 2001. Yes, there is. I think it's a by-product of better IMAP support. -- Paul Berkowitz MVP Entourage Entourage FAQ Page: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - 2001 or X. It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise. -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
