Mike, You raise some interesting points; recently (within the last 3-4 years), there was some hub-bub regarding Gore's monthly electric bill at his estate in Nashville (average $11,000/month) in contrast to his concern for Global Warming and encouragment of other citizens to live more "green" and eco-friendly. When this story hit the presses, he was asked to explain himself. He said that because of all of his work in promoting (his "documentary") An Inconvenient Truth that he had acquired enough "carbon offset credits" many times over to justify using that much electricity produced by coal fired generators! Go figure... I recently attended a "webinar" regarding carbon credits for municipalities (urban forestry perspective) and it does not take one long to recognize the "angle" that is being taken in this issue. Like many things, "follow the money trail" and you can often find the real agenda by some. Based on past correspondence, I know you see it too. Steve Springer ________________________________
From: [email protected] on behalf of Mike Leonard Sent: Tue 6/9/2009 4:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Re: High elevation forest response to climate change and other factors Neil, Al Gore is the ultimate hypocrite. When he was VP he and Clinton did nothing about reducing fossil fuel use. They had no energy policy. In fact in 2000 when gas prices spiked about 20 cents/gallon he advocated releasing oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to reduce prices to help him in the election. Clinton and Gore also had chances to mandate improved gas mileage for new cars but they wanted to keep Michigan in the Dem column so they acquiesced to the SUV lobby. I could also mention the failure to stop the Rwandan genocide or supporting the illegal Balkan Wars or not killing bin Laden when they had the chance but sorry I digressed. Yes there are lots of reasons to despise Al Gore including his latest cashing in big time on the climate change issue while living in his palatial estate. Mike Steve, Al Gore is not a climate scientist, but I have no problem with that because he did not create the data or conduct any of the experiments. He is the 'student' of many of the scientists performing state-of-the- art research. When he was VP and post-VP, I know that he often consulted with the top climate scientists [he would consult with folks at my institution somewhat regularly]. I've seen the data he presents presented by the scientists who performed the investigations. There are only a couple of places in that part of the data where I would quibble, but I am actually pretty comfortable with the climate science portion of the movie. Not much has been discredited by the science community. Some [a lot?] has likely been replaced since the movie was made. Science is a moving target like that; actually, some of the data he presented was somewhat old. In fact, he stated that in the movie that in 50 or so years the Arctic Pole would be free of ice. Within a yr of the release of the movie, scientists had cut that estimate by 60%. Recent research suggests that the Arctic will be ice free in the summer in 12-20 yrs. So, some of that movie is out of date. The real problem with the movie is that many people do not like Al Gore. They cannot separate the personality/politician from a very nice, data-driven presentation that is based upon the work of hundreds, if not thousands, of scientists. In no way am I confusing him for a science researcher. He is simply the person who presented the information, a person who has the ability to get such a movie made and to get many people to watch it. If any of the scientists wanted to do this, they would have trouble getting it made and then have trouble getting more than a few thousand people to see it. So, in that sense, Al was quite successful. So, as much as I did not think I would like the movie [and I waited more than a yr to see it], I did. Al Gore did a decent job in presenting the data. I have problems with some of the ecology he presents and much of the invasive issue connection to warming - that is actually a pretty poor connection. But, for the climate science, it is pretty true to the data. neil --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
