Tim,

I always enjoy reading these historical accounts, whether they are deemed 
accurate or not.  If you come across more, please post them to the list.  I 
like the response regarding genetics as well.  I must comment however when he 
talks about some variations have no specific benefit.  Well - there might be 
some examples, but looking at things from the perspective of paleontology, 
there are very few genetic variations that do not have some adaptive purpose 
and if they have an adaptive purpose, then they are selected for or against.  
Things that might not have a "purpose,"  if I were to postulate that left or 
right handedness did not have a purpose, then the degree of variation between 
the two variable opposites tend to be minimal so that selection would not 
prefer one to the other.  

Tree height has a very distinct purpose and is selected for dependant on the 
particular environmental conditions.  Therefore the height parameter  in one 
area of the range is different than in other areas of the range.   Trees in 
that portion of the range fall within the heights genetically selected for in 
that region.  In other cases the genes for a variety of different conditions 
are all present and environmental conditions turn one set of genes on and 
another off, dependant on conditions.  An example is a fish in some Mexican 
caves.  When found in darkness in the depths of the caves, they do not grow 
eyes, while the same species in surface pools do grow eyes.  Parent that are 
eyeless will spawn eyed fish if moved to the light, and eyed parents will spawn 
eyeless fish if they are moved to the dark.  I don't believe that there is 
enough variation in genetic height potential to grow a 300 foot tall tree in 
New England.  

The other consideration is one of environmental conditions.  Overall tree 
heights seem to correlate with latitude, taller trees are more southerly and 
shorter trees are found more northerly.  I wonder also about weather 
conditions.  The tops of many of the taller trees do not seem to be stopped by 
reaching a growth limit, but rather a point at which the rate of breakage under 
the weather/climatic conditions equal the rate of growth.  This is especially 
true once the trees emerge from the generalized canopy height.  So perhaps tree 
height is not only limited by their own genetics, but limited indirectly by the 
genetics of the trees with which they share the forest.  A tree growing among 
taller species may grow higher than a tree growing among shorter species.  
Anybody have any comments? [If so maybe we should start a new subject]

Ed Frank



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