[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I need a wide angle, and would like opinions about the 24 TS-E and the
> 24 1.4L.
>
> While I don't do "architectural" work per se, I've heard the TS is
> beneficial even for landscapes, which for me often includes trees and
> barns.  The secondary use would be casual, outdoor portraits.
>
> For 90% of my pictures, the difference in speed between the two won't
> matter.
>
> My main hesitation with the TS is that it's not available in auto focus.

So often answers to questions such as yours properly ask for more
information because so much depends on 1) what you intend to photograph and
2) your style of going about photography.

The TS is designed for patient and studied composition.  Through the shift
function you can keep those trees and barns from "keystoning" because your
lens is pointed up at them.  You can use that feature to keep things
straight when you've pointed the lens downward to avoid a composition with
too much sky in it.  Shift will let you put the horizon high w/o destroying
the perspective of what remains below.  This is important for trees and
fences as well as buildings.

The tilt feature will allow control of incredible depth of field by tilting
the lens to be more parallel to the landscape.

On the other hand the 24 f/1.4 will be great for quick low light P.J. style
work.  Apart from that the slower 24's will be just as usable for landscape
and funny looking portraits (It takes an expert to use a wide angle for
portraiture).

My advice is to remind you that each of your choices is a specialty lens
designed to excel in special conditions.  You concern about lack of AF in
the TS makes me want to ask you if you have the patience and dedication to
photography to  make images with a 24 TS.  It'll take time and
concentration to use that sucker appropriately.  If you are a snapshot
shooter who keeps a camera with him - just in case you'll quickly ask
yourself what did I buy this for and be selling or exchanging it for
something more useful.  Same goes for the f1.4  You may end up asking how
often you shoot near wide open and muse I could have bought the 20-35 f3.5
- 4.5 for the landscapes I shoot, and the 85 mm 1.8 for portraits.

I for one hope you are a photographer and choose the TS, and not a camera
carrier, in which case neither of these lenses is really for you.

Regards,

Plumviewer
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