Hi Peter,

> Of all people I would not expect to be called Gary Larson by you.

I didn't CALL you Gary Larson, the disconnect reminded me of a well known
Gary Larson cartoon, where there is a blackboard in the cartoon with a whole
bunch of formulas and at the end a result...but between the formulas and the
result it says "and then a miracle happens".  I'm only emphasizing the
disconnect we have here.

> I am not making any leap and I will have to say that no I am
> right and you are wrong.

Even if you are right...you're not explaining your self sufficiently to show
that you are right IMO.  The explanations I've given are correct (and others
have confirmed this as well), so the only thing that can be at odds here is
what the premises we are going by are (or some basic misunderstanding of
physics/operation), and I've clearly stated my premises and you haven't said
yours are any different...

I do not mind being wrong, but you haven't shown me to be wrong, and again,
what I've outlined is correct, so if you are right, where is the disconnect?
There is not enough information in your explanations to determine that.

> If more pixels cover a face, then when
> you enlarge than image you will have more detail on that face.

Absolutely, no one has ever disputed that...but that premise..."IF more
pixels cover a face" is where the leap seems to be.  Two images identically
framed, one with a 12MP one with a 10MP, that somehow the 10MP has higher
pixel density for the same "part" of the image doesn't fly.  What you said
is:

"we take the same exact image of a group of people"

and I've explained my understanding of that statement in detail, and cited
physical examples.  And more pixels do not cover the face if it is the "same
exact image".  It becomes a matter of pure number of pixels, and has nothing
to do with sensor size.

So, the explanation that is missing is how do you get the sensor with the
smaller number of pixels to have higher pixel density in two "exact same
image[s]"?  The only way to get two "exact same image[s]" is to use
differing focal lengths or different shooting positions so the two images
are the "exact same images".

> Yes I know you are an engineer for hire, so what. That does not
> mean your right all the time.

Of course not.  And, my expertise has nothing to do with the issue at hand,
but the ancillary stuff you brought in is stuff that isn't related to the
issue at hand...so it wasn't clear why you brought it up.

> All I can say is I was trying to be
> polite and explain things but you went on and twisted them up and
> then turned it around to make your point and minimize what I was
> saying. Not very nice Austin.

Peter, I haven't twisted anything you've said, and I have been very polite
as well.  In fact, I have quoted you directly.  And, there are others that
have chimed in that have the same "confusion" I am having with your
statement as well.  You may very well be right in what you believe you are
trying to say, but what you believe you are saying, and the way I, and
others, are reading it, doesn't agree.

So, if you can clarify your position by giving some finite set of
circumstances, that would certainly help.

Regards,

Austin

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