OFF coarse, Sam You're entitled to fantasise as you like. Obviously you're not very uptodate with any research. LET'S stick with experience and beliefs, Reality can look after itself. The last person to realise it is one who is stuck in a belief. AND Facere, what's done is WHAT'S DONE. I am doing it. FACT is cognate to 'feitico' which means fetish. So don't teach gran how to suck eggs. and include Factititious and any word prefixed with fact, like facile, etc. The online etymology dictionary goes neither deep nor far. Onelook shows 22 instances of words in fac.... like a Factotum, who makes facts into a Totem or prays to one or more humbly totes them around. [from fac, imperative of facere "do"] faculties distribute facts and factoids. Google provides 52,500,000 for fac? That's more than any factory could facilitate, not to ignore being outfaced or faced up with.
"You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. Robert M. Pirsig, "Zen in the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Indeed, I don't question the reality of a fork when eating, though Uri Geller does. I'm now DONE with you. adrian Sam Carana wrote: > Adrian, whatever this "appearance of illusion or a ghostly or > astravlevent set" may be that you're talking about, I think it's a > figment of someone's imagination, i.e. quite the opposite of reality I > would say, so let's stick to reality instead, rather than your ghastly > description of whatever you were referring to. Also, your etymological > analysis of facts is incorrect, the word comes from the Latin facere > and means 'what's done', so facts are given, they are out there, > before we start giving our opinions about things. So, to describe > facts as products of theories does not to make sense either, because a > fact is what's done/made/occurred before we start making theories or > giving opinions. Facts are parts of reality, which is founded in > diversity. And yes, that's a fact! > > Cheers! > Sam Carana > > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jeepers, first time I can take two potshots at once. >> >> Sam, What you call reality amounts to the physical world or >> phenomenological. Recent findings >> show that this is an appearance of illusion or a ghostly or astravlevent >> set. A lot of people >> latch onto a facet or aspect of this world and take it for the complete >> answer. Diversity is >> variations on a theme one can call archetypes. So you're right but >> incomplete. Besides as I >> keep on repeating a fact is a PRODUCT of a theory, which is a pattern that >> serve as a >> logicalised background of a percept or observation. Fact is cognate to >> feitico, west Indian >> voodoo jargon, which means fetish. So in a catchphrase don't make a fetish >> of any fact. >> adrian >> >> Sam Carana wrote: >>> Hi Fred, >>> >>> Good to hear from you. I believe that diversity is fundamental to >>> reality. >>> Did you read my recent thread on this, at: >>> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_frm/thread/5555b41cef633d3e >>> >>> Cheers! >>> Sam Carana >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
