You haven't said anything, Adrian. Sam Carana
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:55 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OFF coarse, Sam > You're entitled to fantasise as you like. Obviously you're not very uptodate > with any research. > LET'S stick with experience and beliefs, Reality can look after itself. The > last person to > realise it is one who is stuck in a belief. AND Facere, what's done is WHAT'S > DONE. I am doing > it. FACT is cognate to 'feitico' which means fetish. So don't teach gran how > to suck eggs. and > include Factititious and any word prefixed with fact, like facile, etc. The > online etymology > dictionary goes neither deep nor far. Onelook shows 22 instances of words in > fac.... like a > Factotum, who makes facts into a Totem or prays to one or more humbly totes > them around. [from > fac, imperative of facere "do"] faculties distribute facts and factoids. > Google provides > 52,500,000 for fac? That's more than any factory could facilitate, not to > ignore being outfaced > or faced up with. > > "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No > one is fanatically > shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it is going to > rise tomorrow. When > people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any > other kinds of dogmas > or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. Robert M. > Pirsig, "Zen in the > Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Indeed, I don't question the reality of a > fork when eating, > though Uri Geller does. > > I'm now DONE with you. > > adrian > > > Sam Carana wrote: >> Adrian, whatever this "appearance of illusion or a ghostly or >> astravlevent set" may be that you're talking about, I think it's a >> figment of someone's imagination, i.e. quite the opposite of reality I >> would say, so let's stick to reality instead, rather than your ghastly >> description of whatever you were referring to. Also, your etymological >> analysis of facts is incorrect, the word comes from the Latin facere >> and means 'what's done', so facts are given, they are out there, >> before we start giving our opinions about things. So, to describe >> facts as products of theories does not to make sense either, because a >> fact is what's done/made/occurred before we start making theories or >> giving opinions. Facts are parts of reality, which is founded in >> diversity. And yes, that's a fact! >> >> Cheers! >> Sam Carana >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Jeepers, first time I can take two potshots at once. >>> >>> Sam, What you call reality amounts to the physical world or >>> phenomenological. Recent findings >>> show that this is an appearance of illusion or a ghostly or astravlevent >>> set. A lot of people >>> latch onto a facet or aspect of this world and take it for the complete >>> answer. Diversity is >>> variations on a theme one can call archetypes. So you're right but >>> incomplete. Besides as I >>> keep on repeating a fact is a PRODUCT of a theory, which is a pattern that >>> serve as a >>> logicalised background of a percept or observation. Fact is cognate to >>> feitico, west Indian >>> voodoo jargon, which means fetish. So in a catchphrase don't make a fetish >>> of any fact. >>> adrian >>> >>> Sam Carana wrote: >>>> Hi Fred, >>>> >>>> Good to hear from you. I believe that diversity is fundamental to >>>> reality. >>>> Did you read my recent thread on this, at: >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_frm/thread/5555b41cef633d3e >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> Sam Carana >>>> >> >> > >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
