Hello Sam Please let adrf to teach us. We are lucky because s/he came here to tell us about reality, dont you see. :-)
About "reality" obviously he is confused, as any one else. But about arrogance... well, we have a master here. Some of his posts are so funny. word 'I' is of the most importance in his repertory, he loves himself a lot. cheers Carlos On Sep 7, 9:59 am, "Sam Carana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You haven't said anything, Adrian. > > Sam Carana > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:55 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OFF coarse, Sam > > You're entitled to fantasise as you like. Obviously you're not very > > uptodate with any research. > > LET'S stick with experience and beliefs, Reality can look after itself. The > > last person to > > realise it is one who is stuck in a belief. AND Facere, what's done is > > WHAT'S DONE. I am doing > > it. FACT is cognate to 'feitico' which means fetish. So don't teach gran > > how to suck eggs. and > > include Factititious and any word prefixed with fact, like facile, etc. The > > online etymology > > dictionary goes neither deep nor far. Onelook shows 22 instances of words > > in fac.... like a > > Factotum, who makes facts into a Totem or prays to one or more humbly totes > > them around. [from > > fac, imperative of facere "do"] faculties distribute facts and factoids. > > Google provides > > 52,500,000 for fac? That's more than any factory could facilitate, not to > > ignore being outfaced > > or faced up with. > > > "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No > > one is fanatically > > shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it is going to > > rise tomorrow. When > > people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any > > other kinds of dogmas > > or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. Robert M. > > Pirsig, "Zen in the > > Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Indeed, I don't question the reality of a > > fork when eating, > > though Uri Geller does. > > > I'm now DONE with you. > > > adrian > > > Sam Carana wrote: > >> Adrian, whatever this "appearance of illusion or a ghostly or > >> astravlevent set" may be that you're talking about, I think it's a > >> figment of someone's imagination, i.e. quite the opposite of reality I > >> would say, so let's stick to reality instead, rather than your ghastly > >> description of whatever you were referring to. Also, your etymological > >> analysis of facts is incorrect, the word comes from the Latin facere > >> and means 'what's done', so facts are given, they are out there, > >> before we start giving our opinions about things. So, to describe > >> facts as products of theories does not to make sense either, because a > >> fact is what's done/made/occurred before we start making theories or > >> giving opinions. Facts are parts of reality, which is founded in > >> diversity. And yes, that's a fact! > > >> Cheers! > >> Sam Carana > > >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Jeepers, first time I can take two potshots at once. > > >>> Sam, What you call reality amounts to the physical world or > >>> phenomenological. Recent findings > >>> show that this is an appearance of illusion or a ghostly or astravlevent > >>> set. A lot of people > >>> latch onto a facet or aspect of this world and take it for the complete > >>> answer. Diversity is > >>> variations on a theme one can call archetypes. So you're right but > >>> incomplete. Besides as I > >>> keep on repeating a fact is a PRODUCT of a theory, which is a pattern > >>> that serve as a > >>> logicalised background of a percept or observation. Fact is cognate to > >>> feitico, west Indian > >>> voodoo jargon, which means fetish. So in a catchphrase don't make a > >>> fetish of any fact. > >>> adrian > > >>> Sam Carana wrote: > >>>> Hi Fred, > > >>>> Good to hear from you. I believe that diversity is fundamental to > >>>> reality. > >>>> Did you read my recent thread on this, at: > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_frm/thread/5555b41... > > >>>> Cheers! > >>>> Sam Carana --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
