I was a while involved with folks who used drugs. There are a few that work, 
hardly well known, 
The well known ones put one in a chemical bind with not clear evidence that one 
does attain 
mystical access. The point though is to have such access managed by the self to 
have ready 
access. Timothy Leary advised L.S.D, a different kettlle of fish, besides he 
was well educated 
and researched.

As for Carana's materialism I wonder where he gets the blind arrogance to deem 
I write 
nonsense. He's just a snide, immature specimen. When they run out of 
understanding they get 
abusive. Quite typical of academics.

adrian

ornamentalmind wrote:
> Good that you brought up William James...even though what he wrote
> should be known by all today. Of course, there were some who tried his
> methods of understanding 'Mind'...who were too dense to know that the
> problem was with the experimenter rather than the method of
> experimentation when it came to introspection!
> 
> When I first learned that well over a century ago James suggested all
> 3 methods I was aghast that so few today in the west have headed his
> advice!
> 
> As to Sam, I did learn about delicious from you, thanks. Your apparent
> materialism in a conference on epistemology tends to limit the
> conversation though.
> 
> As to entheogens, I for one would never advise them though many swear
> by them re: insight.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 7, 4:41 pm, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I believe there is no source of deception in the investigation of nature 
>> which can compare with
>> a fixed belief that certain kinds of phenomena are impossible. - William 
>> James
>> "" "Yet I repeat once more," declares William James, "the existence of 
>> mystical states
>> absolutely overthrows the pretension of non-mystical states to be the sole 
>> and ultimate
>> dictators of what we may believe."
>>
>> THAT einsele EIN seele is an error you make. It is now an outdated belief..
>>
>> ''The sun was so delightfully warm, and the stone, which had been sitting in 
>> it for a long
>> time, was so warm, too, that Pooh had almost decided to go on being Pooh in 
>> the middle of the
>> stream for the rest of the morning... --The House at Pooh Corner.
>> You cannot do that with words.
>> ""The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter 
>> his life by altering
>> his attitudes. - William James
>>
>>
>>
>> einseele wrote:- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> > 
> 


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