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einseele wrote: > Hello Sam > > Please let adrf to teach us. We are lucky because s/he came here to > tell us about reality, dont you see. :-) > > About "reality" obviously he is confused, as any one else. But about > arrogance... well, we have a master here. > > Some of his posts are so funny. word 'I' is of the most importance in > his repertory, he loves himself a lot. > > > cheers > > Carlos > > > On Sep 7, 9:59 am, "Sam Carana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You haven't said anything, Adrian. >> >> Sam Carana >> >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:55 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> OFF coarse, Sam >>> You're entitled to fantasise as you like. Obviously you're not very >>> uptodate with any research. >>> LET'S stick with experience and beliefs, Reality can look after itself. The >>> last person to >>> realise it is one who is stuck in a belief. AND Facere, what's done is >>> WHAT'S DONE. I am doing >>> it. FACT is cognate to 'feitico' which means fetish. So don't teach gran >>> how to suck eggs. and >>> include Factititious and any word prefixed with fact, like facile, etc. The >>> online etymology >>> dictionary goes neither deep nor far. Onelook shows 22 instances of words >>> in fac.... like a >>> Factotum, who makes facts into a Totem or prays to one or more humbly totes >>> them around. [from >>> fac, imperative of facere "do"] faculties distribute facts and factoids. >>> Google provides >>> 52,500,000 for fac? That's more than any factory could facilitate, not to >>> ignore being outfaced >>> or faced up with. >>> "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No >>> one is fanatically >>> shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it is going to >>> rise tomorrow. When >>> people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any >>> other kinds of dogmas >>> or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt. Robert M. >>> Pirsig, "Zen in the >>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Indeed, I don't question the reality of a >>> fork when eating, >>> though Uri Geller does. >>> I'm now DONE with you. >>> adrian >>> Sam Carana wrote: >>>> Adrian, whatever this "appearance of illusion or a ghostly or >>>> astravlevent set" may be that you're talking about, I think it's a >>>> figment of someone's imagination, i.e. quite the opposite of reality I >>>> would say, so let's stick to reality instead, rather than your ghastly >>>> description of whatever you were referring to. Also, your etymological >>>> analysis of facts is incorrect, the word comes from the Latin facere >>>> and means 'what's done', so facts are given, they are out there, >>>> before we start giving our opinions about things. So, to describe >>>> facts as products of theories does not to make sense either, because a >>>> fact is what's done/made/occurred before we start making theories or >>>> giving opinions. Facts are parts of reality, which is founded in >>>> diversity. And yes, that's a fact! >>>> Cheers! >>>> Sam Carana >>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:23 PM, adrf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Jeepers, first time I can take two potshots at once. >>>>> Sam, What you call reality amounts to the physical world or >>>>> phenomenological. Recent findings >>>>> show that this is an appearance of illusion or a ghostly or astravlevent >>>>> set. A lot of people >>>>> latch onto a facet or aspect of this world and take it for the complete >>>>> answer. Diversity is >>>>> variations on a theme one can call archetypes. So you're right but >>>>> incomplete. Besides as I >>>>> keep on repeating a fact is a PRODUCT of a theory, which is a pattern >>>>> that serve as a >>>>> logicalised background of a percept or observation. Fact is cognate to >>>>> feitico, west Indian >>>>> voodoo jargon, which means fetish. So in a catchphrase don't make a >>>>> fetish of any fact. >>>>> adrian >>>>> Sam Carana wrote: >>>>>> Hi Fred, >>>>>> Good to hear from you. I believe that diversity is fundamental to >>>>>> reality. >>>>>> Did you read my recent thread on this, at: >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/browse_frm/thread/5555b41... >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> Sam Carana > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
