that's your privilege. Some people don't like it when others know different and more I find it funny that Georges can be as rude as he likes, but not me.
adrian. archytas wrote: > I doubt I would ever consider replying to you Adrian. > > On 28 Oct, 09:07, adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> EH??????????? >> 1: Right from the ground up, plants and animals both have defense systems to >> prevail over the >> competition. That's where our antibiotics come from and their overuse now >> makes us sick, killing >> both good and bad bugs while weakening our immune system. The harmless frog, >> has a poisonous skin >> which if your metabolism cannot cope will make you sick. Try frog soup and >> see what happens. A >> recent division of prokaryotes, called archeobacteria, are endemic >> throughout all existence. They >> are flexibly adaptive in many ways. In our case they hang around inside our >> body until we die and >> then get busy. Man has an immune system such that when its metabolism is >> destabilised the archeos on >> board get the upper hand. Our colon in fact needs them or our wastes would >> not work as manure. Part >> of our very complex immune system uses them as active scavengers. Cancer has >> been recently diagnosed >> as produced by the presence of a fungus, candida albicans being no. one >> suspect. Don't expect to >> find any of this in your school text book or agreed by conventional minded >> folk. >> 2: Genes is another one of those ready made fictions without proof I won't >> bother to discuss. >> 3; WHAT history, the silly fibs passing for history or the real one hardly >> written up? >> 4: We cannot overcome systemic pathology as no such thing exists, That one >> reeks of St George and >> dragon killing, playing goodies and baddies. >> 5: Kindly explain what your remarks have to do with mine below? >> Do your homework before you open your mouth. >> >> adrian. >> >> >> >> archytas wrote: >>> Our genes are influenced by such 'knowledges' as the common cold virus >>> (which is how it makes us feel lousy). Science does generally allow >>> repetition and allows us to recognise mistakes. Our history is >>> apparently one of mistakes and the repetition of them in ignorance or >>> cunning. My idea of unity would be one of a non-hierarchical state in >>> which ideas were not attributal to subjects but mind, yet I sense >>> there is subjectivity to overcome without loss of individuality - a >>> lifeworld needs to overcome systemic pathology to achieve enough of >>> this for us to move on. >>> On 23 Oct, 21:53, adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Now it gets tougher and more complex in understanding. We project our >>>> ideas into reality. How >>>> that works out shows up at the end of our actions where it has effects and >>>> consequences. >>>> Reality is a continuum, ie, a genuine whole in which everything is the >>>> case. So it depends on >>>> how good is our judgment. We are part and parcel of that continuum but >>>> there the quality and >>>> calibre of our sentience varies, and worse than so called socially formal >>>> IQ tests, haha. Mind >>>> is distinct from matter and prior to the aether or sea of energy which is >>>> changed into form by >>>> interaction of mind with aether. Matter is a more or less stable form of >>>> energy, just a form. >>>> The order of real biz is mind, aether as energy flows, hopefully chaotic, >>>> plasma as in the >>>> process of formation or affected by mind, ours, or maybe just IT, matter >>>> as stabilised for the >>>> duration. If mind were truly separate it could not affect matter, so it >>>> begins to be the case >>>> that mind affects matter, but to what degree and so on varies with >>>> people's ability and >>>> potential. A Lama, able to affect matter, takes some 30 years of training >>>> or discipline. Baby >>>> "knows" but does not understand, that's what takes time. Baby can think >>>> but how well? It has no >>>> self sense, but soon enough acquires one. Babies have been dug out live >>>> from disasters, like >>>> being buried alive for several days when material common sense tells us >>>> that cannot happen. So >>>> will that happen for all babies any time? Science, silly enough, insists >>>> knowledge is >>>> repeatable and predictable which is nonsense. Why do we have a hieratic >>>> setup for science that >>>> ends up with Nobel prize winners? This last is realistic, the first is not. >>>> """“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no >>>> matter if I have said it, >>>> unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” - >>>> Gautama Buddha >>>> ""Man is arrogant in proportion of his ignorance," Bulwer-Lytton. Zanoni >>>> """http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Erwin-Schrodinger.htm &go new >>>> scientist >>>> What we observe as material bodies and forces are nothing but shapes and >>>> variations in the >>>> structure of space. Particles are just schaumkommen (appearances). ... ## >>>> ok if we think of >>>> space as vacuum or aether. >>>> """" The world is given to me only once, not one existing and one >>>> perceived. Subject and object >>>> are only one. The barrier between them cannot be said to have broken down >>>> as a result of recent >>>> experience in the physical sciences, for this barrier does not exist. ... >>>> Erwin schrodinger >>>> ME> We've changed our minds about the schaumkommen as Einsteinian space >>>> curvature since >>>> Schrodinger died, but otherwise it still stands. >>>> """"“We are all crazy, but those that analyze their craziness are called >>>> philosophers” >>>> I dunno what are called those who can synergise or synthesise their >>>> insight? But that's the >>>> next hurdle to come. >>>> adrian. >>>> Mynsie wrote: >>>>> Hmm - very interesting. >>>>> Is it possible reality doesn't listen to us because we create it with >>>>> our >>>>> thoughts, moment by moment, and so can not listen, but simply occurs >>>>> and by occurring as it does, represents harmony with our thoughts. Now, >>>>> whether our thoughts are in harmony with all other aspects that exist >>>>> within this Cosmos is perhaps a different story. >>>>> Is mind and body truly separate within the premise of creating our >>>>> reality >>>>> by thought, or is one the extension of the other, or rather totally >>>>> inclusive of each other? If so the baby would know and understands it's >>>>> environment very well I would think. It can not speak, but it can think.. >>>>> Merrie >>>>> ---------------------- >>>>> A closed mouth gathers no feet. >>>>> On 23-Oct-08, at 1:18 AM, adrian wrote: >>>>>> Yes, no?? It could be perhaps that matter, ie brain, etc is the >>>>>> memory of an experience, ie >>>>>> its form, model, mapping and the brain, as a whole a composite of >>>>>> the lot. Not the tissue but >>>>>> the neural traces. At least that's how I think of it, matter being >>>>>> those memory traces that >>>>>> work and fantasy ones that don't quite make it or have not made it >>>>>> yet. After all a baby, when >>>>>> born is a not yet finished form and both body and brain are >>>>>> added'extended by what intrigues, >>>>>> turns on and off that baby. I recently planted some nettles [ I use >>>>>> them for gout ] and the >>>>>> plant retracted down to the roots to re-emerge again. I think of >>>>>> that as it having to get used >>>>>> to a new soil condition from the transplant. Carl Jung with his >>>>>> patients made them draw >>>>>> mandalas of their psyche. The same thing, when it changed it went >>>>>> into a null state to >>>>>> re-emerge with a new, another mandala. >>>>>> However since reality does not listen to us, we have to conform with >>>>>> it, you can only tell by >>>>>> whether it works in harmony with the rest. That is a sort of >>>>>> ecological view of it. It sort of >>>>>> makes me feel OK about it. Not a clue what it does for others. And I >>>>>> don't imagine IT is much >>>>>> concerned with how the material aspect of our being thinks of it by >>>>>> way of what individuals do. >>>>>> ""Pooh knew what he meant, but, being a Bear of Very Little Brain, >>>>>> couldn't think of the >>>>>> words. --The House At Pooh Corner >>>>>> """The sun was so delightfully warm, and the stone, which had been >>>>>> sitting in it for a long >>>>>> time, was so warm, too, that Pooh had almost decided to go on being >>>>>> Pooh in the middle of the >>>>>> stream for the rest of the morning... --The House At Pooh Corner >>>>>> """There is nothing lacking in you, and you yourself are no >>>>>> different from the Buddha. Be >>>>>> boundless and absolutely free from all conditions. Be free to go in >>>>>> any direction you like. Do >>>>>> not act to do good, nor to pursue evil. Whether you walk or stay, >>>>>> sit or lie down, all are the >>>>>> wonderful activity of the Great Enlightened One. It is all joy, free >>>>>> from anxiety - it is >>>>>> called Buddha. --Tao-hsin >>>>>> """As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed >>>>>> science, to the study of >>>>>> matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this >>>>>> much: There is no matter as >>>>>> such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force >>>>>> which brings the particle of >>>>>> an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the >>>>>> atom together. We must >>>>>> assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and >>>>>> intelligent mind. This mind is the >>>>>> matrix of all matter. * “Das Wesen der Materie” (The Nature of >>>>>> Matter), speech at Florence, >>>>>> Italy, 1944 (from Archiv zur Geschichte der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft, >>>>>> Abt. Va, Rep. 11 Planck, >>>>>> Nr. 1797) >>>>>> 'Wesen" in German means most what Heidegger called Dasein, ie being >>>>>> IN "ITness". >>>>>> adrian >>>>>> Mynsie wrote: >>>>>>> Is it perhaps, rather than "intelligence" the memory of experience at >>>>>>> play here, >>>>>>> not necessarily our own, but a "collective memory? >>>>>>> Merrie >>>>>>> ---------------------- >>>>>>> A closed mouth gathers no feet.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
