This no knowing does not help much in understanding why I do not allow
my grandson to play in traffic.
Brains don't know, people do - yet there seems to be 'intelligence' at
work in all information exchange, or possibly a world of information
as well as matter.  Organisations (organic and otherwise) 'know' in
some senses.  I'd just question whether the question gives us
important leads.
On 21 Oct, 13:37, adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   The "knowing brain" does not know anything, it's a fiction.
> Reality per se does not need or use a map or mapping code, though we do in 
> 3rd person mode.
> Reality exists before man and after man, as nicely themed by Stapledon. 
> Consciousness, soul,
> sentience or whatever the blah word chosen is the bottom line. Chop that out 
> and there is no
> knowing. And, yes 'know' is one of the less felicitous words around. 
> Castaneda uses tonal and
> nagual, which is a traditional dualism when respective to real and illusion 
> there is no dualism
> possible.
>
> adrian
>
>
>
> Georges Metanomski wrote:
>
> > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Joseph Polanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> What Does the Knowing Brain Know?
> > ==============
> > Apparently nothing much.
> > Georges.
> > ==============
> >> Michael Eldred wrote:
>
> >>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:14:12
> >> EDT:
>
> >>  >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >>  >>>Hi Jud,Previously you said: *.... what cannot
> >> be known is that
> >>  >>>which does not exist to be known.* Standing
> >> alone, this statement
> >>  >>>infers that *known* is understood. But in your
> >> comments above you
> >>  >>>indicate that *knowledge* is really
> >> undefinable. This means that the
> >>  >>>quote I cite must be relativistically
> >> understood, in other words not
> >>  >>>understood in any absolute way. Could you make
> >> the same point without
> >>  >>>using *known?*
>
> >>  >>Hi Richard:What I meant by that is that
> >> *knowledge* (like *ideas*
> >>  >>or *memes*) does not exist - it is a reification
> >> of the existential
> >>  >>modes of a knowing brain
>
> >>  >ME: "knowing brain" That's a good one.
> >> The eliminative materialist has
> >>  >eliminated the/his mind, only to invoke the voodoo
> >> notion of a "knowing
> >>  >brain".
>
> >> also eliminated is any awareness of the difference between
> >> truth and
> >> error or between knowledge and opinion.
>
> >> examining the brain state of someone during the middle ages
> >> who thought
> >> that the sun revolved around the earth would reveal a brain
> >> in the
> >> existential modality of 'knowing' something that is
> >> false.
>
> >> Joe
>
> >> --
> >> Philosophy is, after all, done ultimately in the first
> >> person for the
> >> first person. --- H-N Castaneda
>
> >> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@^@
> >>      http://what-am-i.net
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