Hi Orn, Silence is the most important component of language And silence from chazwin as he sent, is also significant
But I'm afraid there is misunderstanding about what silence is in language All in language is about separation, its elemnts are of pure difference, the only attribute of lets say letter A is its difference with letter B and with all the rest, There is silence "in between". It is that component which permits you to know the specific sequence, where a word begins, and where ends When you face an unknown language that silence is the challenge, you learn a new language when you get the difference between words, tones, expressions, context etc. That difference is made of silence. Otherwise you perceive the unknow as a noise. On 13 out, 13:30, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know... einseele.... > Your arguement doesn't seem to hold all that much "water" for > me....Silence, when it comes to language, would appear to me to be the > absence of any signification whatsoever... Whereas I concede "code" is > significant because it relies on "spacing" or an some sort of On/Off > relationship... each of which is established to be significant in and > of itself.... but language... without any language?.... I don't quite > see it... the Metaphor or Analogy doesn't hold, I don't think. > nominal9 > > On Oct 2, 9:07 am, einseele <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This group is lately almost silent > > My subject is linguistics, so I will take advantage of this silence to > > point the obvious, which is usually not so clear. > > > When talking, in any language, there is always a silent portion/ > > segment, words, letters, sentences, need that silence to identify > > itselves. > > > Also when we write. Silence when we write is represented by "empty" > > space. > > > There is empty space in all cases, or silence. Being perhaps the most > > important component of language. > > > Even if I write: > > > thisgroupislatelyalmostsilentmysubjectislinguisticssoiwilltakeadvantageofthissilencetopointtheobviouswhichisusuallynotsoclear > > > Even so, to convey any meaning the reader will add "missing" "empty" > > space to the above, which is the first sentence of this post. > > > Silence, empty space, or whatever instance this represents, conveys > > meaning. It is not null, but empty. This means that in language, > > emptiness is treated the same way as any positive sign. > > > As in computer science as well, where the sign "0" represents the > > absence of a material dot. > > Binary systems need 2 values and curiously, the first is "0" > > > That absence has no lesser status that any other sign, and more than > > that is needed as part of the system. > > > If this is valid to language, and there are a lot of languages (also > > not human), why should be any different in Physics, or Nature, or > > Chemistry, whatever. > > > It is hard to see out there knowledge approaches talking about > > emptiness in this sense, there are examples of course. Poetry for > > instance, and many other. > > > rgds- Ocultar texto das mensagens anteriores - > > - Mostrar texto das mensagens anteriores - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
