I take your point on ME Nom. Laziness in some respect. Strange that you noticed the irony concerning Godot, given the American lack of said.
On 17 Oct, 18:13, "Serenity Smiles" <[email protected]> wrote: > P.S . The evidence is good enough for the newly crowned Nobel Prize winner > for Peace after his presumed audience with the Dalai Lama to call for my > Geshe to attend a meeting of the Worlds' Religious Leaders next week. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "nominal9" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:11 PM > To: "Epistemology" <[email protected]> > Subject: [epistemology 10869] Re: Silence > > > > > > > Sounds like a rip-off on "Waiting for Godot"... > > Read it years ago....You're still in that Mind's Eye Group... > > Archytas?.... Ah well, some over here in the U.S have always said that > > the "Chamberlain" sorts in Europe don't hold to "principle".... just > > appeasers.... > > nominal9 > > > On Oct 17, 9:42 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Strangely I had just posted this in Miknd's Eye (the 'k' is silent). > > >> My new play, 'Waiting For the Google Fix' is complete and waiting for > >> a West End début. A hectic tale of drugs and disappointment, the > >> whole 4 hours is spent in observation of the silence between two old > >> codgers on depressant medication waiting for their old mate Google to > >> turn up and help them turn their laptops on ... > >> Neil - Old Codger 1 > >> Orn - The Elder Old Codger > >> Missing mate - Jacques Derrida's Corpse > >> The audience will be 'held captive' and come to believe the whole > >> thing a great gas. > >> Gas Provider - Jenkins' Pharmaceuticals > >> Health and Safety - Burke and Hare > >> Stunts - The Zimmers > >> Reviews: > >> 'A classic of the postmodern genre. Archytas' wit is constantly > >> deferred. On waking the headache and stomach pain can only be > >> explained as post-traumatic belly-laughter'. (Artyfloss McClaque - > >> Daily Herald) > >> 'Missing this will be like having all your teeth drawn - which is > >> what > >> will happen if you do'. Mafia Express. > > >> We refer, in language, to 'the silent treatment'. > > >> On 13 Oct, 23:56, einseele <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Hi Orn, > >> > Silence is the most important component of language > >> > And silence from chazwin as he sent, is also significant > > >> > But I'm afraid there is misunderstanding about what silence is in > >> > language > >> > All in language is about separation, its elemnts are of pure > >> > difference, the only attribute of lets say letter A is its difference > >> > with letter B and with all the rest, > > >> > There is silence "in between". It is that component which permits you > >> > to know the specific sequence, where a word begins, and where ends > >> > When you face an unknown language that silence is the challenge, you > >> > learn a new language when you get the difference between words, tones, > >> > expressions, context etc. > >> > That difference is made of silence. Otherwise you perceive the unknow > >> > as a noise. > > >> > On 13 out, 13:30, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > I don't know... einseele.... > >> > > Your arguement doesn't seem to hold all that much "water" for > >> > > me....Silence, when it comes to language, would appear to me to be > >> > > the > >> > > absence of any signification whatsoever... Whereas I concede "code" > >> > > is > >> > > significant because it relies on "spacing" or an some sort of On/Off > >> > > relationship... each of which is established to be significant in and > >> > > of itself.... but language... without any language?.... I don't quite > >> > > see it... the Metaphor or Analogy doesn't hold, I don't think. > >> > > nominal9 > > >> > > On Oct 2, 9:07 am, einseele <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > This group is lately almost silent > >> > > > My subject is linguistics, so I will take advantage of this silence > >> > > > to > >> > > > point the obvious, which is usually not so clear. > > >> > > > When talking, in any language, there is always a silent portion/ > >> > > > segment, words, letters, sentences, need that silence to identify > >> > > > itselves. > > >> > > > Also when we write. Silence when we write is represented by "empty" > >> > > > space. > > >> > > > There is empty space in all cases, or silence. Being perhaps the > >> > > > most > >> > > > important component of language. > > >> > > > Even if I write: > > >> > > > thisgroupislatelyalmostsilentmysubjectislinguisticssoiwilltakeadvantageofth > >> > > > issilencetopointtheobviouswhichisusuallynotsoclear > > >> > > > Even so, to convey any meaning the reader will add "missing" > >> > > > "empty" > >> > > > space to the above, which is the first sentence of this post. > > >> > > > Silence, empty space, or whatever instance this represents, conveys > >> > > > meaning. It is not null, but empty. This means that in language, > >> > > > emptiness is treated the same way as any positive sign. > > >> > > > As in computer science as well, where the sign "0" represents the > >> > > > absence of a material dot. > >> > > > Binary systems need 2 values and curiously, the first is "0" > > >> > > > That absence has no lesser status that any other sign, and more > >> > > > than > >> > > > that is needed as part of the system. > > >> > > > If this is valid to language, and there are a lot of languages > >> > > > (also > >> > > > not human), why should be any different in Physics, or Nature, or > >> > > > Chemistry, whatever. > > >> > > > It is hard to see out there knowledge approaches talking about > >> > > > emptiness in this sense, there are examples of course. Poetry for > >> > > > instance, and many other. > > >> > > > rgds- Ocultar texto das mensagens anteriores - > > >> > > - Mostrar texto das mensagens anteriores -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
