In a sense, one can argue that the beginning of time was the beginning of everything. But that is because semantically, we identify "beginning" with time. Therefore, by definition, nothing can have happened before time began.
But conceptually, we can say that if time began, then something must have caused time to begin. So even though technically there was no "before" time, the initiation of time must have happened "before" time began. We should not get caught up in the semantics. If we accept that the universe has order and structure, then we must accept that there is some organizing principle underlying that order and structure. That organizing principle can be likened to a molecule of DNA. Let's use human DNA as our analogy. DNA is not the human. It is the coded instruction set for "building" (so to speak) a human body. Within that coded instruction set is the organizing principle that results in the human body. In a similar manner, we can discern that there must be a coded instruction set, we might liken it to a computer program, that organizes the cosmos. But just as DNA is not a human body, so also we can reasonably assume that the organizing principle is not the same as the "finished product," the cosmos. The organizing principle would be as different from the cosmos as DNA is from a human body. The organizing principle need not obey the laws of cause and effect, the laws of sequence, the laws of time. Indeed, even human logic itself is encoded in the principle, and therefore the organizing principle is not subject to, not subordinate to, the human intellect. We can only conclude then, that we have utterly no method of ever understanding the organizing principle unless certain conditions are met: The organizing principle is intelligent and purposeful. It reveals itself to us, at least in part. It bestows on us the capacity to understand what it reveals to us. If this sounds like theology, it is because it deals with ultimates and absolutes. But it also shows us that while ultimates and absolutes are forever beyond the ken of the human mind, it is entirely reasonable to propose that there is an ineffable essence to all reality, and that it is entirely reasonable to attribute intelligence and purpose to it (after all, these exist in our finite beings). All of which impose upon us one critical attribute for which each of us must strive--- humility. ----------------------------------------- On Apr 19, 5:42 am, awori achoka <[email protected]> wrote: > A particle of what? In what context did it exist---in a timeless context? My > argument is that---everything began at a point--a point of time. First there > was time then an event---the event was the beginning. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: > > In the beginning there was a primordial point particle. > > This was BEFORE there was time, space and energy. > > ---------------------------------- > > > On Apr 17, 10:06 am, awori achoka <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For the sake of debate----in the beginning there was time and then space > > and > > > energy followed. The rest is history. > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > What is the Organizing Principle of the Universe? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Epistemology" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<epistemology%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > > -- > > nubiaafrika.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.
