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Bob,

The other comments already posted seem good.  Here are my thoughts.

My C-85 Coupe carried my 250 lbs pretty well off some pretty short fields
and climbed very well.  I had a 7146 prop with is past the 7148 which most
people consider climb prop.

The limits in the type certificate A-787 for the metal McCauley 1A90CF or
1B90CM prop are
For D, E & G with C-85:  not under 2025 and not over 2225
For later models with C-90:  not under 2250 and not over 2375

The limits in the type certificate A-787 for the metal McCauley 1A105/SCM
7153 prop
on the A2 with C-90 engine: not under 2250 and not over 2375

I don't know where you got your values of "Rated at Static RPM  2175-2275"
but I suspect those values should be checked.

My C-85 with the 7146 prop got static rpm of exactly 2225 or perhaps the
needle width higher.  This gave me pretty good take-off and climb (for a
Coupe) but limited my speed at max continuous cruise (2400 rpm on the
C-85)
to 100 mph.  (I could go faster if I let it spin up toward the redline
though I did not do that except for a couple of tests.  Even then, I
wasn't
straining the engine since the flat prop didn't take as much power to spin
to those rpms as it would have with a coarser prop.)

You said your static rpm before the take off was 2150.  That's 75 rpm less
than I was getting on my C-85.  There are, I think, some compression
differences between the C-85 and the C-90 so I can't say definitively that
you were getting less take-off power than I got on my C-85.  I DON'T think
you were getting as much power as you ought to.

Comparing your static rpm of 2150 with what the type certificate says the
two listed metal McCauley props should have, you're turning 100 rpm below
the MINIMUM for that engine and 225 rpm below the maximum allowed rpm.

Your engine will never develop 90 hp on takeoff.  That's a power you only
get when you're at redline.  It is however the official number for the
engine.  The power you DO get depends as much on the prop as on the engine
design and health.

Suggested possibilities:
1.  See if there's an engine related problem causing such low static rpm.
(I'd put some effort into this since you've already (supposedly) got a
7150
prop.)

2.  Borrow a flatter pitched prop such as a 7148 for flight and static rpm
tests.

3.  Make sure your prop really is a 7150 and not a higher pitch.

Please keep us posted on your progress and we'll try to help.


Ed Burkhead
http://edburkhead.com/
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Need some input from anyone that ownes a Alon A2. I purchased this
aircraft
last fall and have not been able to fly it again  til yesterday due to
operating out of a grass strip that has not been suitable until now due to
the weather. I did mke about 5 take off's and landings out of this
airstrip
in the fall prior to the bad weather.
 My problem is this:
I took off yesterday into a 8 - 10 MPH  quartering head wind on a near
level
2000' grass runway (grass about 3-4" high) with  60' trees 50 yrds off the
end off the runway. It took me over 1000' to get 65 MPH and in the air and
I
had to turn to the left to avoid the tree tops ( needless to say it scared
the hell out of me).

This plane is a 1996 A2 w/ C90-16F Contnetal engine w/ a McCauley
11390/CM7150 prop  Rated at Static RPM  2175 -2275  Max Engine  2475 RPM
-
Aircraft  TT 2898  TTSMO 1085
At time of take off I was indicating 2150 RPM -  The Temp  60 deg - Field
Elv 715' Barm.Preasure 30.2
 LOADING :Full fuel  and me @ 250 lbs
According to the manual I should not need more then 5 -600 feet for
takeoff.
I have flown this aircraft off a paved runway with the pervious owner at
gross weight prior to purchase in 90 deg summer heat and it performed
better
then this.

If I would have had any additional weight on board   I do not think I
would
have gotten out.  In fact in retrospect I should have aborted the takeoff.

My question is, is this the type performace I should  expect or do I have
a
problem. Like needing a longer runway or worse a new engine. ( Don't say
loose some weight off your lard ass,  I already thought of that)
  I thought I should be seeing close to red line at full thottle 9on take
off roll like I did in my 182. The 182 required a power reduction as soon
as
you established a climb to avoid going past the redline.  The Alon will
not
even get near the redline.

Is it possible to be showing listed 2175 static RPM at full throttle and
not
developing full rated  horsepower

Any constructive comments would be apreciated.
Bob Bullock
Alon A2
N5621F
Maryland
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