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Friends, One more thing that is good to understand, for those who are afraid of insurance company hi-jinks. A "C" 'Coupe that has been physically converted to have all the characteristics of a "D" model is MORE safe to fly than a "C" model that has not be re-configured. It has more safety margins incorporated. So, the insurance companies have no legitimate legal gripe if you have a C model and fly it as a C model, even if it has D model additions. See, it has to do with "cause." Making your plane safer to fly does not cause accidents. The law requires genuine cause, and paperwork issues do not cause planes to fall out of the sky. EXAMPLE: If a guy claims he is a physician and performs surgery, but has NO medical license...and the surgery goes sour, he may get into a lot of hot water, but so long as he performed the surgery according to the accepted standards of practice, his mere lack of paperwork (a license) does not make him guilty of malpractice. He had to physically do something wrong. Pretty heavy, huh? Stay within the C model envelope and you are a safer aviator. But, if the break out of the model C limitations, then...you are vulnerable. Dave Winters -----Original Message----- From: Ed Burkhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:20 PM To: Cflyin Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] C or D? ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Tom wrote: > Several private comments emailed to me about my question are > very negative; I'm feeling pretty bad about all this. > > Is the Ercoupe world as "dangerous" as it's beginning to seem? > I guess I got emotionally attached to the idea of eventually > buying my own 'Coupe too soon. I think I need to apologize > to the entire list, and then sign off. Yikes. No, Tom, No! Don't sign off and don't fret over having brought up the subject. It's a subject that is just fine to talk about. People NEED to know the ins and outs of this subject. The downside is, if YOU are the one considering buying a plane that has been flown as a D for years as converted per Aircraft Specification A-787. If YOU were then considering losing the paperwork and flying it as a C, there's some risk to you if you announce the possibility in public. I don't think there's a risk to us. Heck, the FAA already knows about the C to D conversion. It's true that we don't want to rub their noses in it but I'd bet the FAA guys and gals would privately be in our corner. The type certificates A-718 and A-787 have no rule against the D being converted back to a C. There's nothing at all wrong with that. It's just the Sport Pilot rule that requires that a plane that has ever been certified at a higher weight not be allowed, even if it is downrated. That clause was not aimed at Coupes, it's aimed at the experimental community where you can submit paperwork to change your plane's characteristics. The Coupe world isn't dangerous at all. But if you want to conform to the FAA, then you've got to have the right information. That's an important part of why we're here. Please, don't feel bad about having asked. No one should have scolded you for bringing it up for you've harmed no other person. Ed Burkhead http://edburkhead.com ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???") ======================================================================== ====== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm ============================================================================== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
