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Hi, Wes, I don't think that is the way it works. The B&D Simple Start replenishes (tops off) you depleted battery, then the starting is done as usual, not through the cig lighter wiring. I'm still investigating. Now I find that the list price is $75 and Ace Hardware sells they on line through Amazon for $55. The unit weighs 5 lbs. I contacted COLEMAN, and they insist that the COLEMAN POWERMATE is not and never has been one of their products, despite the label?! The plot thickens. Don From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEAD BATTERY STARTDate: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:08:48 -0600 I think I would wonder about trying to crank a starter through the wiring that includes the cigarette lighter. Wes Sherman ----- Original Message ----- From: DONALD BOWEN To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] DEAD BATTERY START ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Hi, Harry, Jack Stanton told me (off-site) that he had located the Black & Decker "Simple Start" at Home Depot @ $49.95, and intends to buy one and try it. I'm awaiting his report. The one you described appears to be the COLEMAN Powermate, not the B & D which is a newer and different device. Please confirm for potential B&D buyers. BTW, I have no intention to prop start my engine, and the only "qualified person in the cockpit" would be me, should I ever reconsider. Don From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:44:43 -0500Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] DEAD BATTERY STARTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] I purchased one, charged it for several days, etc.... When I needed to start my old van, with a dead battery, it didn't work. Perhaps mine is faulty ???, OR not sufficiently charged, etc...perhaps I didn't leave it hooked up long enough before trying.... Lights did come on, etc..but starter clicked, but wouldn't operate. The instructions say that it is useful for a slightly discharged battery....ie: I left on the lights, now my car won't start.....but not effective for a dead battery. Mine is about 12 inches long; 2" x 2 " , and includes a power socket....so I do have a reservoir for light electrical devices.... I'll give it another try when I find a sightly discharged battery*... * I suspect the definition is a battery that will slowly turn over the engine but so fast as required to start; as power is also being drawn for ignition, warning lights, etc. In an aircraft this may work better, as the ignition system is operated by magnetos, and if you get any turn over, so the magnetos spin, the aircraft engine should start. AND, it is easy to Prop start our small engines,...BUT it is dangerous for in-experienced folks, so Be careful. Don't do it by yourself....always have a qualified person in the cockpit operating the controls when prop starting. Fly Safe - Have Fun Harry ============================================================================== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm ============================================================================== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
