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Larry,

The only time we tried this in trouble-shooting was right after flying the
pattern for a half-hour or so, and taxiing back to the A&P's hanger.  When I
did routine shut-down, it did include turning off the Avionics switch &
Master switch.  Then the A&P got the idea to test transmission with the
engine off, first by me talking to him from the plane's radio and he
listened via the hand-held, and second by my calling Ground Control.  To do
those, I had turned on only the Avionics switch and Master switch again,
without re-starting the engine.  Both Ground & he could hear me ok with the
engine off. 

We only did this once, but the difference was very noticeable.  I would have
liked to replicate this a few more times, but he had to leave.

Linda

From: Larry Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:21:53 -0600
To: Linda Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Ctech <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] radio transmitting problem


Remember, capacitors dry out with age, particular ones of that vintage.

I would look at the radio having problems after building up a charge in the
caps, or it could be vibration-related. If transmission clears up as soon as
the engine is turned off, without turning the radio off and on, then I would
be suspicious about vibration, again a bugaboo in old radios, as solder
joints deteriorate, etc.

No expert, but I've used lots of really old stuff in my time...

Larry
N99340



Larry Snyder
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On Dec 22, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Hartmut Beil wrote:

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Ed.
I discussed the problem with Linda off list a bit and it turns out that the
radio works fine again after been turned off for a minute or so.
 
This indicates to me that something inside the radio is maybe getting warm
or a capacitor is charging up or what have it that disables the radio when
in use over time.
 
A replacement is on the way thanks to Wayne and if the problem persists with
Wayne's radio, one can look outside of the radio, if the problem is gone, I
guess Wayne will make a sweet deal for Linda.
 
Hartmut
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To: 'Linda Abrams' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ; Ctech
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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-TECH] radio transmitting problem

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> Would your idea of "a weak element...in the transmitter"

> account for the fact that after flying it a half-hour and

> experiencing this problem deteriorating, when I landed

> and shut down the engine, then transmissions were

> immediately ok again?  That is what is so weird to

> me about this situation (and to the A&P).

 

Linda,

 

Humm, no.  If it¹s immediately OK when you shut down the engine, then, well,
we don¹t know enough.

 

Questions:

 

1.   Does the tower (or other plane) hear you

a.  loud but garbled?

b.  loud but staticy?

c.  clear but progressively weaker?

d.  clear but sometimes weak, sometimes strong?

 

2.   Is the problem that the tower and other planes can¹t hear you when you
are

a.  on the ground taxiing out for takeoff?

b.  in the pattern?

c.  at certain points in the pattern?

d.  outside the pattern?

 

3.  Does the signal quality

a.  stay the same throughout the flight?

b.  slowly decay throughout the flight?

c.  get sometimes bad, sometimes better?

d.  relate to engine power level?  (i.e. if you reduce power to idle, does
it help?)

 

4.  Any relationship in which way the plane is pointed relative to the
tower?

 

5.  Are you using an intercom?  If so, is it

a.  Battery or aircraft powered?

b.  Fresh batteries?

 

5.  Some very old radios like that don¹t handle modern (electret)
microphones well.

a.  Have you tried a separate microphone?

b.  Have you tried a separate carbon or dynamic microphone?

c.  Are you using an old carbon microphone?  If so, bang it on something a
few times to loosen up the carbon granules.

 

Your responses to #1, #2 and #3 will give us a lot more to go on.

 

Ah, ain¹t debugging fun?

 

Ed Burkhead

http://edburkhead.com

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