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 Eliacim,
     From my limited experience, it seems this might be a part (the floorboard) 
which could vary somewhat from plane to plane.  In my case, the forward two 
pieces (I think I've seen these referred to as the foot rest) had to be 
unscrewed and removed first.  The remaining machine screws in the floor were 
then removed.  There are two screws holding the foot brake mounting assembly in 
place which was not evident at first.  After removing those, some wiggling was 
needed due to the tight fit between the sides and and main spar.  My coupe has 
a center canopy section which made the floor removal more like a giant 3-D 
puzzle.   
     Before reinstalling the floor, we slightly modified it, allowing more of a 
generous fit at the tight spots.  From all the pictures I've seen of interiors, 
from the www.ercoupe.net website, interiors vary ALOT, so I can't say how much 
my experience may help you.  I also remember believing I had removed all the 
screws at first, only to find a couple more holding it down, which may also 
account for your struggles of a year ago. 
 
 
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Thanks for your advice. At some point, I will have to take out the
floorboard to look at it. Any special instructions on how to take out the
floorboard? I remember trying about a year ago and not being able to pull
it out, after taking out all screws. (???)



> Eliacim,
>       I had my master cylinder completely apart and replaced the seals
> which were just o-rings.  Getting it out is the hardest part just
> because of the location.  The second hardest part is putting the
> snap ring back in at the top, which holds everything together.  The
> reason is that the new o-ring has to be slightly compressed to get
> the snap ring back into the groove.  The only way I found to do this
> was to use an "H" style shop press with an appropriate pushing tool
> (so as not to damage the piston rod assembly coming out the top)
> such as a 1" socket (+/- I forget the exact size I used).  Be
> careful to push only enough to let the snap ring, "snap" into it's
> groove.
>      Decision to replace would be based on any scoring on the inside which
> would prevent the piston o-ring from sealing.  Also, the hole in the
> cap where the rod comes through, gets elongated from the geometry of
> the brake pedal/rod connection movement, and eventually wears enough
> that the tiny o-ring won't seal it anymore.  Then you must replace.
> John Cooper has an STC'd replacement master cylinder.  I don't know
> if any pedal mount connections have to be modified for this
> replacement.
>  Darick
> N94139 ("Miss Moneypenny")
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> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] Master cylinder
>
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>
> Noticed a couple drops of brake fluid in the belly of the plane.
> Looks like it's coming from inside the plane.
> Plane is braking fine. (I have Clevelands)
> What are the most common sources of leaks there?
> Should I suspect the master cylinder?
> Replace or repair?
> Is it easy to access?
> Any and all advice will be appreciated
> Eliacim
>
>
>
>> Linda.
>> It seems your little project became a big one already.
>>
>> Brakes: I learned from Lee at Skyport years ago that the original
>> Ercoupe
>> Master cylinder was designed to make the right pressure for the brakes
>> the
>> plane was delivered with these were the Hayes brakes I guess, not even
>> the
>> Goodyear's.
>> Every Brake system is  a system where the Master Cylinder should match
>> the
>> brake cylinders. A good match allows for sensitive braking power.
>>
>> My Coupe came with Cleveland wheels and the original master cylinder. I
>> must say this works too, although I have to push the pedal down hard to
>> hold the plane on a full power run-up.
>>
>> If you need to overhaul the master cylinder anyway, save the money and
>> buy
>> a matching master cylinder from Skyport. Sell your old one on EBay, that
>> way it's not lost to the Ercoupers community and it gives you some of
>> your
>> money back.
>>
>>
>> Hartmut
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: ncoastwmn
>>   To: [email protected]
>>   Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:23 PM
>>   Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] Master cylinder
>>
>>
>>         Hi all,
>>         I'm putting Cleveland brakes on my coupe in the near future and
>> am
>> wondering if it is necessary to replace the master cylinder as
>> well. I have read in the archives about better performance with
>> the Matco m/c, but wanted to know if I can do that later or if it
>> must be right away, to have the brakes work at all.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Linda
>>         N93443 (Gilda)
>>         sn 766
>>
>>
>>
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