Don,

The D elevator setting would add landing speed because the up travel is less 
then the C but the E elevator will then lower the speed down to C or maybe even 
less speed.

The difference in weight on the wings would depend on the thickness of the 
metal and the process used on the fabric covers.

Sorry that I addressed this to you. Apparently that is now a faux pas but you 
did ask the question. I hope I did not hurt your feeling with my answer. If my 
answer is incorrect all are to feel free to call me a dumbXXX.


Kevin1 

--- In [email protected], "Donald" <dongen...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Variations abound.  In earlier research, I had (I thought) discovered that 
> the E elevator ADDS about 10 mph to the landing speed!  In the metal vs cloth 
> wing cover, it had seemed that the added weight when you subtracted the 
> cloth, was only about 6-8 lbs.  Probably depends on what thickness of 
> aluminum was used, I see all are not the same there. Now I don't know just 
> what I DO know! Anybody care to share the facts on their plane before and 
> after?
> 
> --- In [email protected], Hartmut Beil <hbeil@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Kim, Lynn.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We calculated that the metal covering adds roughly 40 pounds to an Ercoupes 
> > empty weight. But one has to subtract the weight of the cloth covering of 
> > the wings plus the weight of the dope.
> > 
> > I'd say net weight gain is around 20 pounds. 
> > 
> > The inspection of the metal wings is as hard as the cloth covered ones. The 
> > 40 or so holes are the only access.
> > 
> > Admitted that a thoroughly inspection can be done when recovering the 
> > wings. But when does that happen? Every 10 to 20 years. That is no 
> > significant inspection cycle to me.
> > 
> > The recovering process is labor intense and costs extra money. And is not 
> > available in some areas.
> > 
> > Metalized wings should not stop you from buying a nice Ercoupe.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hartmut
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > To: kimblackseth@; [email protected]
> > From: Iflysmodel@
> > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:05:14 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Split elevator
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hey Kim: I hope and pray that you will have better luck with the (new) 415 
> > C. I believe that the metal covered wings add about 35 to 40 lbs to the 
> > empty weight of the Coupe. They also make it tough to inspect every nook 
> > and cranny (as can be done during a recover job) for possible corrosion. 
> > (It is a lot of work to drill out all those rivets, remove the skins, and 
> > then replace after inspecting)  I feel the split elevator is the best of 
> > both worlds. It allows landing at the slowest speeds and requires the least 
> > amount of trim changes with airspeed.
> >  
> > >>
> > By the way, this new (to me) 415 C has metal wings and a split elevator  
> > is this a good thing?<<
> >  
> > Lynn Nelsen
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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