You may want to rethink not removing the seats and side panels. I had read where people did it that way and was convinced I would too. It did not take too long until I decided there was no way it could be done properly unless you took out the side panels. For some reason in my plane, when the side windows went clear opened, the bottom portion of the window would jump the channel and catch in the down position. I glued in some inner tube rubber strips in the channel between the welt and the channel to keep the window in the tracks. Be sure and check it before you button it back up. Some photos of mine are in the Lynn Nelson article in Hartmuts helpful site, be sure and read that before starting.
--- In [email protected], "robert" <justfly...@...> wrote: > > Hi Donald.... > > Many thanks to you and others for responding. > > I have a much better idea now of how to do this. > > The only concern I have is the area between the window ledge and the bottom > of the seat as I wont be removing the seatback assy and the side panels. But > here too many have offered good advice. > > I think I will take the welts to work and put an extra stong over stitch into > the welt with nylon thread so it might last longer as the ones I have in now, > the tread seems to have worn through. > > Next is to try to find .060 plexiglass for the windows. > > I was thinking of going back to the original 3 piece glazing but making the > middle one a sun shade using aluminum. Any thoughts on how thick this could > be. > > Many Thanks to All. > > Cheers > > BobP > --- In [email protected], "Donald" <DonGeneda@> wrote: > > > > Words can be confusing here, the felt goes towards the outside of the > > aircraft, make sense? > > I did not try to glue the felt, I glued basically the back part of the > > channel only, allowing the sides to flex and hold the window tight. Seemed > > to work quite well that way. I used 3M weatherstrip cement, and if one > > glued the sides as well as the back, it woulb also be tricky to get the > > welting all the way to the back of the groove. I used strips of cardboard > > to hold it into position while it set up > > > > --- In [email protected], "robert" <justfly333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi All.... > > > > > > I originally installed my welts with the felt strip in the inside as > > > well. MISTAKE. > > > > > > I'm going to reinstall new welting. > > > > > > I understand the part about the felt going to the outside, but does the > > > felt go on the top or the bottom of the channel, and should the felt > > > recieve a coat of glue as well? > > > > > > Does the welt act in a manner to apply tension to the window? > > > > > > Also I'm experimenting with aluminum Chicago Fasteners instead of rivits > > > for the fasteners along the sides. They are low profile and smooth, and > > > can be easily replaced without accidentally enlargining the holes in the > > > frames. > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > BobP > > > --- In [email protected], "Donald" <DonGeneda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Installed wrong was my problem too. Whoever did it put the FELT STRIP > > > > on the inside of the groove, That error allowed the felt to wear and > > > > bunch up, locking the window travel. > > > > The felt strip does not go on the inside where it contacts the window, > > > > it goes between the welting and the metal channel. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], John Craparo <john.craparo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kevin, > > > > > > > > > > You may have to replace it, but first try lubricating the track in > > > > > the vinyl > > > > > welt. I use white lithium grease. You can buy it in any auto parts > > > > > store. > > > > > Get it in the tube, not the spray. The spray, even with the > > > > > applicator > > > > > straw, may blow back at you when spraying into the groove. I take > > > > > the small > > > > > tube, cut the tip at nearly the very end, then place a bb size drop 4 > > > > > places > > > > > along each track. Then I slide the windows up and down until they run > > > > > smooth. > > > > > > > > > > Your problem may be that the vinyl was installed backward. The slick > > > > > side > > > > > should make up the groove which receives the sliding window. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:11 AM, kevinustin <kevinaustin777@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to replace the vinyl or something because i can not get the > > > > > > side > > > > > > windows all of the way up because the vinyl bunches together. I am > > > > > > a new > > > > > > EWrcoupe owner and looking forward to flying this 415 C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
