All the collaboration ideas presented by Martin sound good. I do think that the idea of implementing an SAP use case is very attractive and I would be able to help out with that, either on the API side or the ABAP side.
One question: Has there been thought on specific use cases that create business value and involve message- or event-oriented two-way interaction between an SAP system and a person using a free-form messaging system? I like the technical use case Dick describes on the wiki page, but I'd like to see it in the context of a real business process. Seems like this might be one of #ubimic's areas of expertise? Ethan On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote: > Wiki page is now full with content / ideas. > > Setting up a simple prototype shouldn't be difficult. > > D. > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote: >> Started a wiki page with more detailed ideas for the SAP Bot >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ESME/Collaboration+with+ubimic >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, David Pollak >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Richard Hirsch >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Martin, >>>> >>>> Thanks for contacting us regarding a collaboration. >>>> >>>> I think it would great to collaborate on a SAP-related use case. We >>>> already have a series of ABAP bots that create ESME messages based on >>>> certain activities (check-out of development components, etc.) What >>>> about looking an an older use case with xRPM integration that we >>>> talked about in a blog (http://blog.esme.us/esme-bots/). >>>> >>>> We would be glad to help you in setting up an environment and we could >>>> also look at using our Stax test environment to integrate with the SAP >>>> systems on the university. >>>> >>>> What about this idea. The Stax test installation is the microblogging >>>> environment. An ESME bot sits in your university's network and listens >>>> to the message flow in this environment (using our new API). When >>>> messages with a certain tag are delivered, your bot then reformats >>>> these messages and then they are posted to the SAP system. A response >>>> message is then posted to the Stax user saying that the operation was >>>> a success / failure. >>>> >>>> I think the next steps would be to further refine this idea (or >>>> another idea) so that a developer could develop a quick prototype. >>>> >>> >>> I am very keen on collaboration. The whole Actions thing was a bit of >>> brain-vomit on my part that happened over a 24 hour period. Other folks, >>> notably Vassil, have fleshed out and improved Actions over time. However, >>> I'd be very interested in enhancing what can be done with Actions... I think >>> they, along with real-time information flow, distinguish ESME from most >>> other micromessaging platforms. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> D. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Martin Böhringer >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Hi ESME community >>>> > >>>> > You discussed our suggestion for a joint project with #ubimic >>>> > (http://ubimic.org) last week and I wanted to get back to you with our >>>> > thoughts on possible collaboration scenarios. >>>> > >>>> > First, I should tell you about #ubimic. We are a group of university >>>> > researchers interested in microblogging from different points of view >>>> > (computer science, information systems, organizational science). Together >>>> we >>>> > think that microblogging has great potential when it comes to integrating >>>> > normal users and things like sensors, machines and software. We are >>>> > experimenting with different microblogging tools and scenarios. For >>>> example >>>> > we have a current project where we use a little factory built with LEGO >>>> to >>>> > simulate how sensors (RFID) could participate in microblogging. >>>> > >>>> > For us, two things are really cool with ESME: >>>> > - the "action" / "ESME bots" functionality >>>> > - the ESME community with its background in enterprise applications (SAP) >>>> > >>>> > Therefore, I could think of different levels of collaboration: >>>> > a) loosely coupled collaboration; we share information and include each >>>> > other in publications (ESME could have a place as associated partner of >>>> > #ubimic if you're interested) >>>> > b) shared work on a SAP use case: it would be really cool, if we could >>>> > define a concrete use cases of tweeting SAP systems. For example tweeting >>>> > Purchase Requisition or Open Items. What would be benefits (easy access, >>>> > easy possibility to retweet and enrich with hashtags, ...) and what would >>>> be >>>> > problems (rights management!, implementation costs)? What's with the >>>> other >>>> > way round (create actions in the SAP system via microblogging postings)? >>>> We >>>> > could write a joint blog posting for each use case (or maybe even a >>>> > publication/white paper). >>>> > c) implement a SAP use case: that would be perfect. We have running SAP >>>> > systems at the university and I could try to get a student for the >>>> > implementation work. However, I have no knowledge of ESME and I am sure >>>> that >>>> > your system has much more to offer (actions, ESME bots)... so I would >>>> need >>>> > someone who supports us here. >>>> > >>>> > Let me know what you think! >>>> > >>>> > Btw: just to let you know in advance: we are working on a study on >>>> > enterprise microblogging tools. We might come back to you in a view days >>>> in >>>> > order to get some information on ESME (we have a standardized >>>> > questionnaire)... >>>> > >>>> > Cheers >>>> > Martin >>>> > >>>> > --- >>>> > Dipl.-Wirt.-Inf. Martin Böhringer >>>> > Technische Universität Chemnitz, Fakultät für Wirtschaftswissenschaften, >>>> > Professur Wirtschaftsinformatik II >>>> > >>>> > Web: http://tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/wi2 >>>> > Email: [email protected] >>>> > Xing: http://xing.com/profile/Martin_Boehringer >>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/boehr >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net >>> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 >>> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp >>> Surf the harmonics >>> >> >
