I like the lego idea. I'm not personally familiar with xRPM and I'm having a hard time envisioning how it would fit in with ESME from reading SAP's documentation, but that's my problem. :-)
Ethan On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote: > Regarding business case: We talked about accessing xRPM via ESME a > year ago. You could very easily use the technical architecture I > described on the wiki page to deal with the LEGO-based scenario with > sensors (RFID) that Martin described. > > D. > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote: >> All the collaboration ideas presented by Martin sound good. I do think >> that the idea of implementing an SAP use case is very attractive and I >> would be able to help out with that, either on the API side or the >> ABAP side. >> >> One question: Has there been thought on specific use cases that create >> business value and involve message- or event-oriented two-way >> interaction between an SAP system and a person using a free-form >> messaging system? I like the technical use case Dick describes on the >> wiki page, but I'd like to see it in the context of a real business >> process. Seems like this might be one of #ubimic's areas of expertise? >> >> Ethan >> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Wiki page is now full with content / ideas. >>> >>> Setting up a simple prototype shouldn't be difficult. >>> >>> D. >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Started a wiki page with more detailed ideas for the SAP Bot >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ESME/Collaboration+with+ubimic >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, David Pollak >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Richard Hirsch >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Martin, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for contacting us regarding a collaboration. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would great to collaborate on a SAP-related use case. We >>>>>> already have a series of ABAP bots that create ESME messages based on >>>>>> certain activities (check-out of development components, etc.) What >>>>>> about looking an an older use case with xRPM integration that we >>>>>> talked about in a blog (http://blog.esme.us/esme-bots/). >>>>>> >>>>>> We would be glad to help you in setting up an environment and we could >>>>>> also look at using our Stax test environment to integrate with the SAP >>>>>> systems on the university. >>>>>> >>>>>> What about this idea. The Stax test installation is the microblogging >>>>>> environment. An ESME bot sits in your university's network and listens >>>>>> to the message flow in this environment (using our new API). When >>>>>> messages with a certain tag are delivered, your bot then reformats >>>>>> these messages and then they are posted to the SAP system. A response >>>>>> message is then posted to the Stax user saying that the operation was >>>>>> a success / failure. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the next steps would be to further refine this idea (or >>>>>> another idea) so that a developer could develop a quick prototype. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am very keen on collaboration. The whole Actions thing was a bit of >>>>> brain-vomit on my part that happened over a 24 hour period. Other folks, >>>>> notably Vassil, have fleshed out and improved Actions over time. However, >>>>> I'd be very interested in enhancing what can be done with Actions... I >>>>> think >>>>> they, along with real-time information flow, distinguish ESME from most >>>>> other micromessaging platforms. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> D. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Martin Böhringer >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > Hi ESME community >>>>>> > >>>>>> > You discussed our suggestion for a joint project with #ubimic >>>>>> > (http://ubimic.org) last week and I wanted to get back to you with our >>>>>> > thoughts on possible collaboration scenarios. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > First, I should tell you about #ubimic. We are a group of university >>>>>> > researchers interested in microblogging from different points of view >>>>>> > (computer science, information systems, organizational science). >>>>>> > Together >>>>>> we >>>>>> > think that microblogging has great potential when it comes to >>>>>> > integrating >>>>>> > normal users and things like sensors, machines and software. We are >>>>>> > experimenting with different microblogging tools and scenarios. For >>>>>> example >>>>>> > we have a current project where we use a little factory built with LEGO >>>>>> to >>>>>> > simulate how sensors (RFID) could participate in microblogging. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > For us, two things are really cool with ESME: >>>>>> > - the "action" / "ESME bots" functionality >>>>>> > - the ESME community with its background in enterprise applications >>>>>> > (SAP) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Therefore, I could think of different levels of collaboration: >>>>>> > a) loosely coupled collaboration; we share information and include each >>>>>> > other in publications (ESME could have a place as associated partner of >>>>>> > #ubimic if you're interested) >>>>>> > b) shared work on a SAP use case: it would be really cool, if we could >>>>>> > define a concrete use cases of tweeting SAP systems. For example >>>>>> > tweeting >>>>>> > Purchase Requisition or Open Items. What would be benefits (easy >>>>>> > access, >>>>>> > easy possibility to retweet and enrich with hashtags, ...) and what >>>>>> > would >>>>>> be >>>>>> > problems (rights management!, implementation costs)? What's with the >>>>>> other >>>>>> > way round (create actions in the SAP system via microblogging >>>>>> > postings)? >>>>>> We >>>>>> > could write a joint blog posting for each use case (or maybe even a >>>>>> > publication/white paper). >>>>>> > c) implement a SAP use case: that would be perfect. We have running SAP >>>>>> > systems at the university and I could try to get a student for the >>>>>> > implementation work. However, I have no knowledge of ESME and I am sure >>>>>> that >>>>>> > your system has much more to offer (actions, ESME bots)... so I would >>>>>> need >>>>>> > someone who supports us here. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Let me know what you think! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Btw: just to let you know in advance: we are working on a study on >>>>>> > enterprise microblogging tools. We might come back to you in a view >>>>>> > days >>>>>> in >>>>>> > order to get some information on ESME (we have a standardized >>>>>> > questionnaire)... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Cheers >>>>>> > Martin >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --- >>>>>> > Dipl.-Wirt.-Inf. Martin Böhringer >>>>>> > Technische Universität Chemnitz, Fakultät für >>>>>> > Wirtschaftswissenschaften, >>>>>> > Professur Wirtschaftsinformatik II >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Web: http://tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/wi2 >>>>>> > Email: [email protected] >>>>>> > Xing: http://xing.com/profile/Martin_Boehringer >>>>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/boehr >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net >>>>> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 >>>>> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp >>>>> Surf the harmonics >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
