Regarding business case: We talked about accessing xRPM via ESME a year ago. You could very easily use the technical architecture I described on the wiki page to deal with the LEGO-based scenario with sensors (RFID) that Martin described.
D. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote: > All the collaboration ideas presented by Martin sound good. I do think > that the idea of implementing an SAP use case is very attractive and I > would be able to help out with that, either on the API side or the > ABAP side. > > One question: Has there been thought on specific use cases that create > business value and involve message- or event-oriented two-way > interaction between an SAP system and a person using a free-form > messaging system? I like the technical use case Dick describes on the > wiki page, but I'd like to see it in the context of a real business > process. Seems like this might be one of #ubimic's areas of expertise? > > Ethan > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote: >> Wiki page is now full with content / ideas. >> >> Setting up a simple prototype shouldn't be difficult. >> >> D. >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Started a wiki page with more detailed ideas for the SAP Bot >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ESME/Collaboration+with+ubimic >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, David Pollak >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Richard Hirsch >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Martin, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for contacting us regarding a collaboration. >>>>> >>>>> I think it would great to collaborate on a SAP-related use case. We >>>>> already have a series of ABAP bots that create ESME messages based on >>>>> certain activities (check-out of development components, etc.) What >>>>> about looking an an older use case with xRPM integration that we >>>>> talked about in a blog (http://blog.esme.us/esme-bots/). >>>>> >>>>> We would be glad to help you in setting up an environment and we could >>>>> also look at using our Stax test environment to integrate with the SAP >>>>> systems on the university. >>>>> >>>>> What about this idea. The Stax test installation is the microblogging >>>>> environment. An ESME bot sits in your university's network and listens >>>>> to the message flow in this environment (using our new API). When >>>>> messages with a certain tag are delivered, your bot then reformats >>>>> these messages and then they are posted to the SAP system. A response >>>>> message is then posted to the Stax user saying that the operation was >>>>> a success / failure. >>>>> >>>>> I think the next steps would be to further refine this idea (or >>>>> another idea) so that a developer could develop a quick prototype. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I am very keen on collaboration. The whole Actions thing was a bit of >>>> brain-vomit on my part that happened over a 24 hour period. Other folks, >>>> notably Vassil, have fleshed out and improved Actions over time. However, >>>> I'd be very interested in enhancing what can be done with Actions... I >>>> think >>>> they, along with real-time information flow, distinguish ESME from most >>>> other micromessaging platforms. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> D. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Martin Böhringer >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Hi ESME community >>>>> > >>>>> > You discussed our suggestion for a joint project with #ubimic >>>>> > (http://ubimic.org) last week and I wanted to get back to you with our >>>>> > thoughts on possible collaboration scenarios. >>>>> > >>>>> > First, I should tell you about #ubimic. We are a group of university >>>>> > researchers interested in microblogging from different points of view >>>>> > (computer science, information systems, organizational science). >>>>> > Together >>>>> we >>>>> > think that microblogging has great potential when it comes to >>>>> > integrating >>>>> > normal users and things like sensors, machines and software. We are >>>>> > experimenting with different microblogging tools and scenarios. For >>>>> example >>>>> > we have a current project where we use a little factory built with LEGO >>>>> to >>>>> > simulate how sensors (RFID) could participate in microblogging. >>>>> > >>>>> > For us, two things are really cool with ESME: >>>>> > - the "action" / "ESME bots" functionality >>>>> > - the ESME community with its background in enterprise applications >>>>> > (SAP) >>>>> > >>>>> > Therefore, I could think of different levels of collaboration: >>>>> > a) loosely coupled collaboration; we share information and include each >>>>> > other in publications (ESME could have a place as associated partner of >>>>> > #ubimic if you're interested) >>>>> > b) shared work on a SAP use case: it would be really cool, if we could >>>>> > define a concrete use cases of tweeting SAP systems. For example >>>>> > tweeting >>>>> > Purchase Requisition or Open Items. What would be benefits (easy access, >>>>> > easy possibility to retweet and enrich with hashtags, ...) and what >>>>> > would >>>>> be >>>>> > problems (rights management!, implementation costs)? What's with the >>>>> other >>>>> > way round (create actions in the SAP system via microblogging postings)? >>>>> We >>>>> > could write a joint blog posting for each use case (or maybe even a >>>>> > publication/white paper). >>>>> > c) implement a SAP use case: that would be perfect. We have running SAP >>>>> > systems at the university and I could try to get a student for the >>>>> > implementation work. However, I have no knowledge of ESME and I am sure >>>>> that >>>>> > your system has much more to offer (actions, ESME bots)... so I would >>>>> need >>>>> > someone who supports us here. >>>>> > >>>>> > Let me know what you think! >>>>> > >>>>> > Btw: just to let you know in advance: we are working on a study on >>>>> > enterprise microblogging tools. We might come back to you in a view days >>>>> in >>>>> > order to get some information on ESME (we have a standardized >>>>> > questionnaire)... >>>>> > >>>>> > Cheers >>>>> > Martin >>>>> > >>>>> > --- >>>>> > Dipl.-Wirt.-Inf. Martin Böhringer >>>>> > Technische Universität Chemnitz, Fakultät für Wirtschaftswissenschaften, >>>>> > Professur Wirtschaftsinformatik II >>>>> > >>>>> > Web: http://tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/wi2 >>>>> > Email: [email protected] >>>>> > Xing: http://xing.com/profile/Martin_Boehringer >>>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/boehr >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net >>>> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 >>>> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp >>>> Surf the harmonics >>>> >>> >> >
