On 2 Jan 2014 at 6:53, Bruce EVangel Parmenter wrote:

> The 'starting' marine has a higher CCA (cranking amps) which means the
> plates are thinner and shorter life). 

One way to improve your chances of getting usable marine batteries is to 
look for batteries rated for minutes of reserve capacity.  A battery rated 
for [cold] cranking amperes is almost certainly an SLI battery and NOT a 
deep cycle battery (or even an imitation of one).  

> The group 24 size batteries are what the golf courses buy for their
> golf  carts. 

Perhaps in CA, but not around here, unless things have changed radically in 
the last few years.

> These are usually the 6V golf cart batteries (similar to a Trojan T-
> 105 in size and performance).    

This isn't the case for G24s.  You may be thinking of group 31 batteries.

It's true that G24s have nearly the same >footprint< as a golf car battery.  
A BCI-standard GC2 is 10 3/8" x 7 3/16" and a BCI-standard G24 is 10 1/4 x 6 
13/16.  So a G24 will fit where a golf car battery fits.  However, G24s are 
shorter (as in height) - 8 7/8" vs 10 5/8".  

They are also quite a bit lighter.  A typical 105-minute golf car battery 
weighs about 65lb, but a G24 is around 45lb.  Weight is roughly proportional 
to capacity, so a G24 has just over 2/3 the watt-hour capacity of a golf car 
battery.  

The marine battery closest to a golf car battery in performance and capacity 
(though not in shape) is a group 31. It weighs about the same, has about the 
same amount of lead, and has about the same (usually slightly less) capacity 
measured in watt-hours. 

However, note that if you use an >equivalent voltage single string< of G31s, 
it will weigh half as much as the same voltage of golf car batteries, and 
have (less than) half the capacity.  If called on to produce the same 
current for driving, the G31s will have a much shorter life.  (You can 
usually measure their life conveniently in months.)

You can get close to golf car battery performance by using two same-voltage 
G31 strings in parallel.   However, there is no advantage to this unless you 
have an unusually cheap source of G31 batteries. 

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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