Thanks Lee.  I only knew about the wire ones.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael Ross wrote:
>
>> 120°F is high for PbSO4 isn't it?  I always heard to keep the temp during
>> charging below 100°F.
>>
>
> Hot is good for performance; but bad for life.
>
> The EV racers deliberately heat up their batteries to maximize the power
> they can get out of the. However, this shortens their life. But that
> doesn't matter in racing.
>
>
>  I have been thinking about pipe tape for this...with a controller.  You
>> could weave a length of pipe tape among the cells, or fix it to a plate of
>> aluminum.
>>
>
> You need to know what you're getting. Some "tape" or "strip" heaters use
> actual resistance wire (like nichrome, or just plain steel when they want
> to be cheap). The resistance of a metallic wire is (roughly) constant; so
> the current is predicted by Ohm's law. If you apply a fixed voltage, it
> dissipates a fixed wattage, which produces a fixed temperature *rise*. The
> exact amount of temperature rise is determines by the insulation and
> thermal conductivity of the materials around it. You need a thermostat to
> get a fixed temperature with this type of wire.
>
> Others types use a conductive rubberlike material, whose resistance
> changes *drastically* with temperature, applied voltage, and other factors.
> This type of wire is used to make it somewhat self-adjusting. They can make
> its resistance increase with voltage, so it tends to self-regulate its
> wattage. And, they can make its resistance go up as the temperature
> increases, so roughly regulates temperature without a thermostat.
>
> The drawback of the latter type of heating element is that they aren't
> very stable. Their characteristics drift over time. They are also easily
> deformed by flexing or pressure (such as pinching them, bending around a
> sharp corner, or piling heavy batteries on top of it).
>
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