Yes, it is partially because of the ICE.... I can't tell the car to start
at the top of the hill with a mostly drained battery because the computer
controls all of that -- it'll actually run the ICE just to recharge the
battery if it gets too low.  I wish I could tell it to intentionally
discharge the battery more instead of using gasoline, to prepare for
downhill runs.

It's actually about a 20 mile long hill, dropping 4,000 feet elevation, to
get to town from my house :)

Z


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Cor van de Water <[email protected]>wrote:

> Zeke explains that he lives on top of a hill with a least 2 miles downhill
> from his home to town.
> I also have had the experience of crossing a sizeable mountain range
> (Santa Cuz mountains are nearby)
> and the result that the Prius battery (half full at he top) reaches max
> charge before reaching
> the end of the downslope, then the regen goes away and it is back to
> engine- and foot-braking.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tue 3/18/2014 10:13 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] How can regen be a reason to buy or not?
>
> I have to say, if your battery is full after two miles is it because of the
> ICE.  If you drive up and down hills using regen your battery will be
> draining, albeit less quickly.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Zeke Yewdall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think mountain driving is a very obvious advantage of regen.  Instead
> of
> > riding the brakes for 20 miles, you can charge the batteries for 20
> miles.
> >  The battery in my (non plug in) Prius is full after one or two miles of
> > downhill -- depending on how empty it was at the top, and then it's back
> to
> > no regen -- you can feel it go away when the battery indicator reaches
> > full.  If I had a full EV, I could just stop charging it at 60%, and by
> the
> > time I got down the hill to town, I'd probably be back at 100%.
> >
> > Z
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:47 AM, EVDL Administrator <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On 17 Mar 2014 at 8:16, tomw wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't have an obvious way to measure this.  Has anyone else done
> > so?/"
> > > >
> > > > I've posted data from my car on diyelectricar a number of times over
> > the
> > > > last 4 years.
> > >
> > > And I've posted this link many times here :
> > >
> > > http://www.brusa.biz/index.php?id=43&L=1
> > >
> > > As with almost everything on a car, how much you get out of regen
> depends
> > > on
> > > where and how you drive, and of course on how aggressively the regen is
> > > designed.  The above link tells the story of Axel Krause's
> Mini-Evergreen
> > > with 18kwh of NiCd batteries crossing the Alps twice in one day,
> motoring
> > > up
> > > the mountains and regenerating (or as he says, recuperating) down.  It
> > > shows
> > > quite clearly how regen - and coasting - helped him make a run of 220km
> > > (136mi) each way on 23.5kwh (measured at the socket) or 169 wh/mi.
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