Do you have a URL for that article? I collect that sort of thing to show to disbelieving friends and relatives.
For the doubters out there, I highly recommend the blog "Our Finite Earth," which is done by a professional actuary, not some wild-eyed hair-shirt: http://ourfiniteworld.com/ Jan On 2014-05-28, at 00:13, Martin WINLOW wrote: > A Financial Times article a couple of weeks back was saying that $1T of > recent investment in shale oil and gas extraction will never se a profit - > due to too low oil and gas prices. Guess what's going to happen next? MW > > > On 27 May 2014, at 07:02, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: > >>> From: Michael Ross [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >>> Can we really disregard the energy cost of all those other items making >>> up the totla cost? >> >> No! It's a totally essential concept! >> >> I think the Hummer versus Prius example was probably contrived and skewed, >> but the concept of energy cost accounting is something we don't do enough of >> these days. >> >> For example, some energy cost analysis indicates that some shale oil costs >> as much as $120/barrel to produce, although the market rate is only >> $100/barrel. Some studies even suggest that some shale oil well use more >> energy than they will ever produce. >> >> For more info, look into "emergy," a concept rigorously developed by Howard >> (HT) Odum. >> >> :::: The more the work is left to nature, the greater the net yield but the >> longer the time required... Thus sometimes the most apparently productive >> and high-yielding sources of energy involve a lot of activity for little >> return, while long-term investments, especially in naturally grown forests, >> provide the greatest value for future generations. -- David Holmgren >> :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op :::: >> > :::: We talk about the state's attempts to ban the sale of raw milk, and a proposed labeling regulation that would require raw milk producers to label each bottle, "WARNING: This raw milk producit is unpasteurized and may contain disease-causing bacteria..." Other food -- hamburgers, chicken, commercial dairy products -- can contain disease-causing bacteria. These products are not required to carry a label declaring them dangerous. It is ludicrous to require producers of high quality raw milk to label their products in a way that is more likely to put them out of business than to protect anyone. -- Ron Schmid :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op :::: :::: (Send email to [email protected] to get a random quote, or [email protected] to get 50 random quotes. Put a word in the Subject line to filter for that word.) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
