Ben,
Not entirely correct - there are many reasons that a car can receive a
"Salvage" title, not just from damage sustained and the insurance
deciding that repair cost is more expensive than declaring it a loss.
For example, if a car is stolen and recovered *after* the insurance has
already paid the original owner, they may avoid the hassle of dealing
with the old car - even if there is no scratch on that car and it is in
the same state as before the theft, so they give it s Salvage title and
deal it it that way.
Another cause is *any* vehicle that is sent to a junk yard, whether it
is
fully functional or damaged or not, will get a Salvage title.
I know this because my EV truck was sent by the City of Santa Rosa to
the Pick-n-Pull when it did not sell in their freet sale.
Consequently it received a Salvage title even though there was no
physical damage - just neglected batteries and dry-rot tires and such.
Someone bought it, put new batteries in, put good tires on, added a
better charger and started driving it, then sold it to me.

If I am not mistaken, a "Salvage" title means that the vehicle is
rebuildable and can be re-titled without much problem (just a
brake and light inspection, a DMV check and if applicable, smog check,
in California) whereas there are other designations for vehicles that
cannot be
re-titled, so they only have value as a parts-car.
This is for example the case when a vehicle has many years of past-due
DMV fees and penalties, causing the cost to title (and pay the backlog)
to be higher than the value of the vehicle.

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626

-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Goren via
EV
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 12:38 PM
To: Collin Kidder; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to
repair&drive! (video)

On Oct 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Collin Kidder via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It is very common. People buy cars with a salvage title and fix them.

Exactly -- the car basically becomes a kit and / or homemade car...very
much like the overwhelming majority of EVs owned by the people reading
these words, save that the sleds might or might not have had quite so
dramatic an history.

It's also worth noting that a salvage title only happens when the car is
"totaled" by the insurance company: when the cost to repair is more than
the value the car is insured for. That can happen from cosmetic damage,
or from damage limited to an easily-repairable but expensive part, like
an engine. For example, try to drive the car across a flooded wash, suck
water into the intake, and the engine is dead...but the rest of the car
may well still be in perfect condition. Insurance might not be willing
to pay the price to replace the engine, and the owner might not care to,
either, so the car is totaled...but somebody else might even have a
perfectly-serviceable engine sitting on the shelf and be happy to drop
it into the car and drive away.

And, think about it: wouldn't one of the ultimate DIY EV projects be to
resurrect one of the flagship commercial models? Ignoring this
remote-disable nonsense, who _wouldn't_ want a Tesla? Imagine some
pimply-faced teenager scouring the junkyard for the hotrod of her
dreams, towing it home, and bringing it back to life over the course of
the next year or so with money she saves from her job as a clerk at the
auto parts store. How is what this guy is trying to do any different?

...except, of course, that Tesla took the keys, still has them, and
won't give them up, and designed the car in such a way that you can't
reasonably replace the lock without their help that they won't give.

b&
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