On a road bike (more efficient than thick tired MTB) bicycle tires are very
thin.  There is some heat generated in the rubber itself from weighting and
de-weighting and side loads.  The molecules are literally sliding across
each other, unwinding and winding back up.  Heat results.  The fabric
carcass also has some flexing and sliding around.  Heat results.

Because the bike is human powered weight is measured out in grams instead
of kilos or pounds.  In particular the rotating bits have inertia to
overcome spinning up - light tires make the bike noticeable more
responsive.

Pumping the tires up hard reduces the flexing and decreases rolling
resistance.  But designing them with less thickness is always better for
efficiency.  Harder compounds where there is less internal flow helps too.

If you could run a tire 1/8 inch thick you would get much better efficiency
from it.

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> jerry freedomev via EV wrote:
>
>> Hi Lee and All, I'm using some early Mazda Miata front hubs, brakes
>> that has retraction V shaped springs that with just a couple tiny
>> holes drilled in the pad for the wire spring end to fit, could fit
>> many disc brakes that don't have them stock. Likely able to do it
>> with just removing the tire.
>>
>
> That's a great idea. I'll have to look into that. My LeCar EV always has
> dragging brakes. Like many, they depend on the roll-back of the rubber
> piston seals as their "spring" to pull back just a tiny bit. Then the
> calipers are supposed to be floating on pins, so that the slight runout of
> the rotor and play in the wheel bearing are enough to push the pads away
> from the rotor.
>
> It doesn't work. The o-ring pullback is too little, the pad is just loose
> between the piston and rotor (and tends to lay against the spinning rotor),
> and the floating pins always rust up and won't move.
>
>  On Tire LRR common car tires are bad but MC tires are 2x's worse I
>> found on my Streamliner MC  low CG chassis !!   I'll have to find
>> better before doing the EV Streamliner, maybe even adapting LRR car
>> tires if I can't find a LRR MC tire.
>>
>
> I wonder why motorcycle tires are so much worse. Bicycle tires are
> obviously very good. What is different about motorcycle tires. Is there
> some fundamental reason for the higher rolling resistance, or is it just
> that the manufacturers don't bother (and customers don't care)?
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