a qualified yes. I came to EVDL wanting an EV. since the mid-late 1970's when 
there was a dealer in Roanoke, Va selling El Cars (the cube shaped carLater I 
get a non working Citi Car and a moderately working needing repairs Kewet.This 
convinced me after a LOT of money (and years), enough to buy a Nissan Leaf, I 
did not have the time expertise tools etc to do a "project" EV and got a 
Volt.SO, a long range EV 

      From: Mike Beem via EV <[email protected]>
 To: EVDL Administrator <[email protected]>; Electric Vehicle Discussion List 
<[email protected]> 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Charter change?
   
I say "Enthusiastic Yes!" to the proposal. I came to the EVDL in 1999 for
help to get a driveable electric pick up on stage for a show. While doing
that (successfully thanks to EVDL folks) I decided that I wanted to build a
daily driver for my commute. I'm still driving electric conversions now,
and I still come with questions from time to time. As I said to the
reporter who did the story on my EV's in 2003, "I'm not an engineer, I'm
not even a very good mechanic, but I can do this, and the automakes say
they can't?"
The help of the engineers and experienced converters and long-time EV
pioneers are the only reason that I can do this, and I am grateful!
Michael B

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:11 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I suppose I'm opening one of those proverbial cans of worms, but I'd like
> to
> (sort of gingerly) see if y'all think a charter change might be in order.
>
> We're still using the one we started with in 1991. We're talking 23 years!
> In that time, the EVDL has changed focus a bit.
>
> For one thing, we've become more of an EV hobbyist resource.  I think we
> need to acknowlege that.
>
> We've had some lengthy online debates and discussions about what we should
> be.  We've even taken votes on it - for example, the one to limit
> discussion
> of hydrogen and FCVs something close to 20 years ago.  I think we also
> voted
> to not discuss over-unity machines and other stuff that seems to violate
> the
> laws of physics.
>
> But we still have the same charter.
>
> So I put on my thinking cap, and came up with some ideas.
>
> As I see it, our charter shouldn't be a kitchen-sink document.  That is, it
> shouldn't try to be an exhaustive list of absolutely everything we do and
> don't want to be.  It shouldn't specify every little thing that we want to
> discuss and all those that we don't.  It should be general enough to keep
> the list open, but specific enough to keep it focused some.  (How's that
> for
> a chore?)
>
> It should be nice and short and simple and clear.
>
> Here is our current charter:
>
> =====
>
> The EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion Mailing List is intended to provide a
> forum to discuss the current state of the art and future direction of
> electric vehicles. It is not intended to discuss either EV appropriateness
> or comparisons with other transportation primary drive modes such as the
> venerable internal combustion engine. Those discussions are best relegated
> to the appropriate usenet newsgroup.
>
> An electric vehicle is any vehicle which uses an electric motor as the
> primary or sole motive force. The energy storage device used to drive said
> motor can use any technology including, but not limited to, solar electric,
> electric battery, fuel cell, internal combustion engine coupled with a
> electric generator (hybrids), or any combination of these.
>
> Production electric vehicles are currently available. Internal combustion
> engine vehicles can be converted to electric power. A number of companies
> perform this conversion. A number of manufacturers provide equipment and
> components allowing you to "do it yourself."
>
> =====
>
> And here is my first try at a new one.  I'm not wedded to this by any
> means,
> it's just an attempt to describe what we are at the core.
>
> =====
>
> The EVDL (Electric Vehicle Email Discussion List) exists for two main
> purposes:
>
> 1, To provide a forum for discussing the current state of the art and
> future
> direction of battery electric vehicles (BEVs).
>
> 2. To support and assist those who have BEVs; or are considering buying,
> leasing, or building them.
>
> The EVDL is not intended to discuss either BEV general appropriateness, or
> comparisons with other vehicles using combustion engines.
>
> A battery electric vehicle (BEV) is any vehicle which uses an electric
> motor
> as its primary or sole motive force, and a rechargeable battery to store
> externally-supplied electrical energy.
>
> =====
>
> What do y'all think?  You're welcome to reply either on list or off.
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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