> I think the main point of the article is that most families > that can't afford (or can't have for other reasons) two cars > will continue to chose an ICE car over an EV.
So BIG deal! Less than 1/3rd of Americans only have access to one car. So why can't these 30% get out of the way of the 70% solution which works perfectly for the other 70%. > You can agree or disagree but until there are more EVs > that are "affordable" and can go 200+ miles on a charge, > he's claiming "it's the battery, stupid". The car that can go 200 miles on a charge will forever be FAR LESS AFFORDABLE than the one that can go 80 miles daily and satisfy 80% of all drivers needs. Most of that 80% DON'T WANT a 200 mile range if it is going to cost them nearly DOUBLE the car price. His claim about "stupid"... should be "Its education and understanding, stupid"... This is the same lethargy of those clueless individuals who are still "waiting for higher efficiency" solar panels, when TODAY's panels cost less than a common window! And 83% of the cost of a solar system is the labor. They will be waiting forever... Wheras the existing systems can cut one's energy costs in HALF if they simply buy now. And every year they wait, they are losing a YEAR of free electricity for life... Rant off... Bob, WB4APR ------ Original Message ------ From: "Robert Bruninga via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: 19-May-15 8:31:52 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery. >> How trite!... Also, completely wrong. >> The current battery is what makes electric cars viable... >http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=3710&doc_id=277584 > >Here is my response to this stupid article: > >The basis of your uninformed claim "Yes, Electric Cars Still Need an >Innovative Battery" is your century and 3 generation old legacy of >gas-tank/gas-station narrow minded thinking. > >Authors who write about EV's with that legacy are blind to the value of >EV's. Yes, EV's do not meet ALL of the versatility of the gas car, but >they DO meet (and far exceed by a factor of three or more) the value of >local travel and commuting which is over 80% of our national vehicle >transportation (and emissions)! > >Why are you so dead set against the 80% solution (which every EV owner >will tell you gives them 100% satisfaction and in fact saves them >3:to:1 >on operating costs. And costs LESS than the average Gas car? > >You are quoting 2008 technology, and market, and thinking. Sure in >2010, the first EV's cost more than comparable gas cars. But by 2013 >with 15 EV's on the market and the $5k price drop by Nissan and GM, the >average >cost* of an EV broke even with the average costs of all gas cars sold >in America ($31k). By 2015, the average price* of all EV's ($29k) is >now $3k LESS than the average gas car and if you ignore the Luxury >Tesla, then the average EV cost* ($26k) is now $5k less than the >average gas car? > >And by the end of 2015, there are 40 EV's on the market further >bringing down that average cost (*after incentives). > >So where on earth can you make your outlandish (outdated >legacy-thinking) >claim about batteries when people who buy EV's represent the HIGHEST >satisfied car customers and their cars fully meet their needs? > >What is missing is awareness and education . of which your article is >completely misguided and fails. > >Please see http://aprs.org/EV-misinformation.html > >Sorry for the tone. But it is gas driving authors with articles like >yours that are holding back EV sales, not the battery. The battery HAS >SUCCEEDED in bringing us the ideal local-travel and commuter car. Let >those that can use it buy it and get out of the way. > >Sorry for the tone. But rants feel good sometimes.. > >Bob, WB4APR >_______________________________________________ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150519/4eb49b79/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
