Hi Arak and All,               Well you did say that since EV's didn't 
fit 30% of the population needs it wasn't good on an EV list kind of should 
expect blowback.               EV's to sell millions only needs 10% of the 
market range isn't the problem.                The problem is lack of choices, 
lack of salespeople to sell what there is, advertising by those selling them.   
             And their lack of RE plug, mounting points so any EV can have 
unlimited range.               Or for Alum/Zinc/air RE giving 1,000 mile range. 
These RE's are proven, viable solution big auto won't use is why EV's are 
moving slow.                But you have other solutions like a used Volt or 
something you could do easily, get a Karman Ghia and convert to a Volt or other 
15kw+ pack should get an easy 120 mile range for around $10k.  On lead they 
have used just 100wthr/mile.               Or make a BrubakerBox type Van on a 
VW chassis.                On living near work you take 400+ hrs or 10 work 
weeks just going to, coming from work plus transport costs so he had a valid 
point even if you can't do anything about it.   
                                             Jerry Dycus
       From: Arak Leatham via EV <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] FW: Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? 
It's the battery.
   
wow, so I see, your answer for the general public is to live where EV's will 
work? That's very draconic of you, and presumptive. I live where I live because 
I must.
 
This is the reason many people drop out of the EV interest, obtuse requirements 
and limitations. 
 
If you are trying to save the planet, by scrunching all people to less than 
30mi from work? That's not a sustainable goal(for many reasons). But of course, 
everyone living more than 30 isn't either. The real answer is limiting world 
population's to less than 5billion and we know that won't fly either.
 
Seriously, I checked with BMW, the price is $46k. The range is 70-80miles. The 
price is way too high and range too short to suit my need. 
 
Anyway, I'm back to dropping out until a more amenable world of ideas prevails. 
Point done. I leave the floor.
 





Arak Leatham - ( My hobby: I want 300 MPG )
 
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 15:14:18 -0400
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] FW: Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? 
> It's the battery.
> From: [email protected]
> 
> I would argue that you're living or working in the wrong place. 42 miles 
> each way is a waste of your time and of gasoline or electricity.
> 
> --Rick
> 
> On 05/19/2015 01:05 PM, Arak Leatham via EV wrote:
> > I admit I'm not sure how that plays out for everyone.
> >
> > I had the decision myself recently, I drive 42 miles each way. I had
> > to balance out a moderate credit score and a super tight budget, and
> > monthly costs. And I don't want or have the ability to charge at my
> > work location. (unless it were flow batteries and as easy as petrol,
> > 5min ok, 10min not so much)
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