Suburban streets are completely different. I believe you that you get
3.9 in that environment. I get that, too, when driving outside the
urban core. But try driving Mission street or anywhere around downtown
SF and see what you get.
That said, if there was any trade-off in the design to accommodate
suburban driving over urban driving, Nissan probably made the right
choice. In suburban driving, you need more range. It is practically
impossible for me to do even 50 miles of urban driving. Ha ha, 20 is
pretty extreme.
By the way, most of my trips that are under 10 miles each way are by
bicycle.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "Ed Blackmond via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 30-Sep-15 5:11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The Big EV Debate> Go for Small or Big Battery
Pack?
On Sep 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:
For example, my Leaf gets about 1.5 - 2.5 miles per kWh (depending on
accessories and temperature) on city streets where I live. But if I
go 60mph on the freeway, I can sometimes get 4 miles per kWh.
I don’t have any hard data to back this up, but my experience with my
2011 Leaf seems to be exactly the opposite. Since I got the car 50
months and 43,000 miles ago, I have been averaging 3.9 miles/KWH
according to the number presented on the display. I definitely get
considerably better range on city/suburban streets than I do on the
Freeway. If I keep my top speed below 50MPH and never allow more than
5 power dots displayed (one is always displayed), I can get about 75
miles on a single charge (I got 81 once). If I put about 40 miles on
the Freeway at 65MPH with the rest on city/suburban streets, my range
goes down to about 60 miles. Using the heater in the winter (if you
can call it that here in Silicon Valley) and it drops by another 10
miles. How people claim they can get 84 miles or better driving
normally is beyond me.
Even though I’m down to 9 of 12 capacity bars, I have yet to notice any
drop in range or the length of time it takes to charge from the very
low battery warning to 100%. The maximum charge time has never been
longer than 5 hours. With a 3.3KW charger I claim my supposedly 24KWH
pack never had a usable capacity of more than 16.5KWH and still has
that capacity.
Ed
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