I think there is an opening for this niche light vehicle market. It just
has to be taken with extreme measures.

If one could build that economic bullet-shaped
Kevlar-Carbonfibre-Ceramic-nano-nano-nanotube car which would prevail on
head-on collision with semi-truck... If it's light and beats the starts off
from Model S crash test results. Then you get noticed and sales would be
good.

But as long as the tiny cars are associated to the furry-mobile on the Dumb
and dumber movie....  No sale.

-Jukka
p.s.- don't shoot the messenger...

http://www.google.com/profiles/jarviju#about

2015-09-29 14:56 GMT+03:00 Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]>:

> I think that's part of the reason.
>
> EV or not, you don't see a lot of demand for tiny, light cars either. Part
> of the reason is safety, or perceived safety, part may be visibility, part
> of it is comfort, and frankly, a lot of people just can't get into very
> small cars.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:09 AM, paul dove via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Easy,
> > The only people buying EVs now are early adopters. It's new and most
> people are afraid of them.
> >
> > People who already had a lead EV, people who only buy the latest tech,
> and green people, those are the customer base.
> > Elon Musk said that he would go to high society dinners and functions
> and see a Prius parked next to Mazarattis, Mercedes, and all sorts of other
> expensive car. He said it is a shame that a green person with moneys only
> choice is a Prius.
> > So, he decided to make an electric car for them. Only he wanted the best
> EV and the best car ever. So naturally it sold. He had a target market and
> filled a void. He also got the lastest tech people as well.
> > The rest of the auto makers are making EVs because the government makes
> them so naturally they inferior.
> > As far a a light efficient car,.... there is no market. Small cars have
> never sold well unless they were cool like the Mini.
> > Paul
> >      From: rayfellow via EV <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The Big EV Debate> Go for Small or Big Battery
> Pack?
> >
> > In 2012 I was helping Oliver Kuttner promote his VLC or Very Light Car.
> It
> > was very aerodynamic too (0.16 drag). His team won the X prize in 2008 -
> > getting 108 or so MPG with fuel. The car he had in California was
> electric.
> > It had a 10KWh battery and would go 100 miles between charges - It
> weighed
> > under 1,000 pounds. I rode in the car some 50 miles or so, and was
> impressed
> > with the ride, comfort etc. It carried 4 passengers.
> >
> > About this time Tesla came out with their car - Big battery and heavy. I
> > thought that the VLC would be as popular as the Tesla.. Boy was I wrong!
> No
> > one seemed impressed that the VLC would go a mile on 100wh vs the 300wh
> for
> > the Tesla.
> >
> > I thought that both would be well recieved. Alas the VLC still sits
> waiting
> > for traction. No one seems interested in it. I wondered why? The only
> answer
> > I can come up with is the cost of electricity is relitively cheap
> compared
> > to liquid fuel. The difference in per mile costs for an efficient EV vs a
> > heavy user is still not all that much.
> >
> > I have pondered this. Maybe there are other reasons too - but seriously,
> > none of the current EV's comes close to Aptera or VLC in efficency.. and
> yet
> > no one wants them.
> >
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> Nabble.com.
> >
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