Another approach is where you own the equipment but don't pay upfront. We already know that type, it is called a car loan. It avoids the abuse but does not take away the questions about reliability and future investments in replacement packs, even though I have seen "insurance" variants that will guarantee against defects in the pack and replace it if it fails, so it seems a lot is already in place, though I have never taken out a car loan so I have no idea how easy or painful that process is. I know my Credit Union advertises with car loans and my other dealings with them are pleasant, so I am guessing that if you walk into a dealership with a check from your Credit Union (or bank) that the dealer may not be happy, but that the process of buying and financing the car should be smooth (since you organised the financing upfront). I heard that the best thing to have a no-hassle car buying experience is also to negotiate the car price upfront (you call them and say that you want to buy this exact model, if they want to get your business, they need to give you the lowest price including everything and when you come you will have a check with the exact amount made out, if they re-neg or add any fee then you will walk out and not come back) but since I never bought a car from a dealer, I have not personally verified that approach.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 10:16 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Batteries are King (A Gigafactory Challenge) Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > I know it's been looked at in more recent years, but the actual > reasons for no one implementing such a scheme has, to me, been lost > in the noise. Actually, battery leasing is very common for commercial and industrial EVs (fork lifts, golf carts, etc.) Fleet operators like to control costs, and hate surprises and down-time. Leasing gives them a dependable monthly cost, no matter what happens. The company providing the batteries also likes it. They have a big dependable customer, who pays the bills (or is easy to find and collect from if they don't). The batteries are highly standardized. The vehicles are built for easy battery swaps and maintenance and swaps. There are often a large number of identical packs at the same location. All this makes their job easier. The situation is a lot more difficult for individual consumer EVs. There are no standard packs. The vehicles aren't built to allow fast battery swaps. Customers are widely scattered. And, it's going to be harder to collect from customers who don't pay. There's one more factor. Many consumers abuse rental property. "Hey, it's a rental -- I can wreck it, because it's not mine." On the other side, I can also see fast-buck fear-mongers that will sell people worthless battery leases or maintenance agreements. They are going to give consumer battery leasing a bad reputation. -- Knowledge is better than belief. Belief is when someone else does your thinking. -- anonymous -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
