> I'm pretty serious.  What is the worst that could happen? ...[from
> stealing Tesla electricity]...

Not much other than the clear demonstration of the loss of integrity,
honesty and civility we see rising in America...

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      From: robert winfield <winfield...@yahoo.com>
 To: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>; "ev@lists.evdl.org"
<ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org" <ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

bart simpson defense
"i didn't do it"nobody saw me"you can't prove it I'm sure you spoke
accidentally and don't mean anything you said, and it was all in jest

      From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>
 To: "ev@lists.evdl.org" <ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org"
<ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

If the car talks the the charger it should be able to dictate the flow of
electrons.  If someone comes up with the device maybe Tesla will change it's
policy.  It's more of a challenge rather than stealing electricity.  That
being said I never thought of the stealing aspect.  The III is upcoming and
will pay for power.  I'd love to utilize a Supercharger.  It would make a
cross country trip more possible. I work for EVRUS.  We welcome any kind of
electric car that can plug to Chademo.  Currently we service Nissan, Kia &
Tesla...or any Chademo ready vehicle you can't steal from us unless you can
hack our system.  For Tesla it's a matter of plugging in as no adapter is
yet available(that we know of)for other vehicles.  So is it stealing if no
sign says Tesla only.  In some cases Tesla spots can be ICED.  They
sometimes can't be legally towed. So unless there is a posting saying no
vehicles other than Tesla is it stealing?    Lawrence Rhodes

      From: robert winfield <winfield...@yahoo.com>
 To: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>; "ev@lists.evdl.org"
<ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org"
<ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
<ev@lists.evdl.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 6:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

Is this post seriously for real? Hacking a supercharger that puts out over
120kW @ 400+V at roughly 300 amps



Who wants to be the first "krispy critter"? really good advertising for the
EV community.
really folks, a TINY bit of thought please


      From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 8:50 AM
 Subject: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

There is an adapter for Chademo to charge a Tesla.  Does anyone think it can
be done in reverse?  Could the supercharger be fooled into thinking it was
charging a tiny tiny battery pack or a Tesla almost full?  I suspect the
Supercharger will look at the car and see the truth and reject the charge
but you never know what a hacker can do until it's done.  Lawrence Rhodes
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