If they aren't locked then why do I need to hack them to get them to work? My car doesn't have a cut metal key but an electronic key, I still consider the Tesla supercharger as being locked, just by an electronic key.

respectfully,
John

------ Original Message ------
From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: "EVDL" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: 5/2/2017 7:58:17 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

My car is locked. Superchargers aren't. You could try but now that you mention it I guess I should make a sign. Lawrence Rhodes

      From: John Neiswanger <jneiswan...@sbcglobal.net>
To: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>; EVDL <ev@lists.evdl.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:50 AM
 Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

So by this logic if I can figure out a "hack" I could take your car
since it doesn't have a sign saying "don't take my car" or "for Lawrence
only"?

I also think I read that the Tesla chargers actually "read" the VIN
number as part of the connection communications. It must have something
like that since the newer ones only get a limited amount of charge per
year for "free".

respectfully,
John

------ Original Message ------
From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
To: "ev@lists.evdl.org" <ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org"
<ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: 5/2/2017 7:34:50 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

If the car talks the the charger it should be able to dictate the flow
of electrons.  If someone comes up with the device maybe Tesla will
change it's policy.  It's more of a challenge rather than stealing
electricity.  That being said I never thought of the stealing aspect.
The III is upcoming and will pay for power.  I'd love to utilize a
Supercharger. It would make a cross country trip more possible. I work
for EVRUS.  We welcome any kind of electric car that can plug to
Chademo.  Currently we service Nissan, Kia & Tesla...or any Chademo
ready vehicle you can't steal from us unless you can hack our system.
For Tesla it's a matter of plugging in as no adapter is yet
available(that we know of)for other vehicles.  So is it stealing if no
sign says Tesla only.  In some cases Tesla spots can be ICED.  They
sometimes can't be legally towed. So unless there is a posting saying
no vehicles other than Tesla is it stealing?    Lawrence Rhodes

      From: robert winfield <winfield...@yahoo.com>
To: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>; "ev@lists.evdl.org"
<ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org"
<ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
<ev@lists.evdl.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 6:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

Is this post seriously for real? Hacking a supercharger that puts out
over 120kW @ 400+V at roughly 300 amps



Who wants to be the first "krispy critter"? really good advertising for
the EV community.
really folks, a TINY bit of thought please


      From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
  To: "ev@lists.evdl.org" <ev@lists.evdl.org>;
"ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org" <ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 8:50 AM
  Subject: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.

There is an adapter for Chademo to charge a Tesla.  Does anyone think
it can be done in reverse?  Could the supercharger be fooled into
thinking it was charging a tiny tiny battery pack or a Tesla almost
full?  I suspect the Supercharger will look at the car and see the
truth and reject the charge but you never know what a hacker can do
until it's done.  Lawrence Rhodes
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